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Post by fatty on Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:00 pm

Hi Just wondered if anybody wanted to share thoughts on people in mma that you think are shady.

I recently found it kind of hard to watch Invicta fights of the past because one of the most over bearing commentaters I've ever heard ruins the experience for me. Freemason weirdo duo pat militich & his ever grinning pervy looking friend michael schiavello. Yes they are freemason cult weirdos. I don't actually know what weird stuff they get up to but its a secretive cult though.  Shiavello always looks like a lecherous pig to me. Any way Invicta events are a no go for me these days because of these two. Any one else have people that spoil there combat sport for them?


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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by Heretic on Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:12 pm

I did not know these two were masons.... learn something new every day
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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by fatty on Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:27 pm

Yup I was surprised too.

Pat Militich became a free mason around the same time he got a "lets be friends again", phone call from dana white who very quickly proceeded to induct pat into the ufc hall of fame.
Coincidence?...
How about this guy...also a freemason always seen at ufc events hanging out...
(EDIT)    shaq o neil




Or this guy shaking his head at fighters using peds in mma...

Jo rogans blatantly biased commentary is always a downside to watching any ufc fight I ever watched. Some times I mute a fight just to watch without hearing his blabbering & it makes watching a fight much more enjoyable. His most annoying commentary for me was probably at Akiyama Vs Belcher. I do like belcher but rogan went balls deep on belcher during that fight. I think it was ufc 100.
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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by Hamilcar on Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:06 pm

I hate Freemasonry.

I once heard one of Rogan's podcasts where he was going on about how PEDs are miracle drugs that should be allowed everywhere. He couldn't understand why something so beneficial would be banned. Yeah.

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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by stu3ufc on Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:30 pm

I honestly think Joe Rogan is a Satanist or apart of something like a masonic lodge. He's always making subtle devil horn and "ok" hand gestures on UFC broadcast for no reason at all. That and his stupid conspiracy show outed him as a shill.


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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by stu3ufc on Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:32 pm

Heretic wrote:I did not know these two were masons.... learn something new every day

I knew schiavello was but had no idea about Pat

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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by iforgotmypassword on Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:21 am

We might see a new champ. Look at this

http://illuminatiwatcher.com/decoding-illuminati-symbolism-the-all-seeing-eye/




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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by fatty on Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:37 am

iforgotmypassword wrote:We might see a new champ. Look at this

http://illuminatiwatcher.com/decoding-illuminati-symbolism-the-all-seeing-eye/




I am some how not surprised yet very disappointed at the same time in cat.z for this image. I just lost respect for her now, I actually kinda liked her. Such a pity. Time to throw this guy in to this thread I suppose...


Good ol benson Henderson loves showing us a triangle before & after his fights without any media scrutiny what so ever. I have yet to hear some one...anyone especially benson Henderson explain the precise meaning of his triangle hand signals. I speculate its a weird illuminati cult thing but please can some one correct me if I am wrong.


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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by God of Thunder on Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:41 am

Dana has some weird books and stuff on his office. Does anyone have the picture?
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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by fatty on Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:04 am

Hamilcar wrote:I hate Freemasonry.  

I once heard one of Rogan's podcasts where he was going on about how PEDs are miracle drugs that should be allowed everywhere.  He couldn't understand why something so beneficial would be banned. Yeah.

I've watched some of his shows also and I agree he is a total clown. Seems to me he has a habit of liking all the wrong kinds of people....


Golden Age wrote:Dana has some weird books and stuff on his office. Does anyone have the picture?

You mean this guy?

don't know what anyone could suspect wrong with this pig... can hardly find an image of this clown where he isn't smirking at us all..


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Post by iforgotmypassword on Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:05 am

yeah someone needs to find a picture of those books. the whole office is filled with highly questionable material. Some of the paintings and symbols gave me chills.

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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by TeamJohnPerretti on Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:00 am

stu3ufc wrote:
Heretic wrote:I did not know these two were masons.... learn something new every day

I knew schiavello was but had no idea about Pat


Same here with me.

Knew of Schiavello but not Pat.

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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by TeamJohnPerretti on Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:05 am

fatty wrote:don't know what anyone could suspect wrong with this pig... can hardly find an image of this clown where he isn't smirking at us all..


C'mon Dana's a classy guy. Twisted Evil

The type of guy who won't let his own mother see her grandchildren.

It says something about the "fans" who defend him and still support the Zuffa product.

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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by TeamJohnPerretti on Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:08 am

fatty wrote:I am some how not surprised yet very disappointed at the same time in cat.z for this image. I just lost respect for her now, I actually kinda liked her. Such a pity.


I'm disgusted seeing cat.z doing that.

Nothing cool or intelligent about her doing so.

Once again g-mma shows what a great place it is by calling out her for this behaviour.
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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by CDF47 on Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:08 pm

TeamJohnPerretti wrote:
stu3ufc wrote:
Heretic wrote:I did not know these two were masons.... learn something new every day

I knew schiavello was but had no idea about Pat


Same here with me.

Knew of Schiavello but not Pat.


Yeah, Pat too.  Just started noticing his mason ring during the AXS TV fight broadcasts.  I was a big fan of Miletich in the past.  Still have Fedor the GOAT and many other greats.


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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by CDF47 on Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:10 pm

fatty wrote:Hi Just wondered if anybody wanted to share thoughts on people in mma that you think are shady.

You are a great addition to this forum.

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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by fatty on Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:43 pm

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The whole point of the internet is to speak with different people.
I believe that many many others think just like I do about zuffa In general but just don't speak up. I have been visiting here for over a year, only to read. Recently I randomly chose to join in the conversations. There are probably lots of others here that just haven't chosen to speak up yet. I'm glad that I did so I can get some of this negativity off my chest.
Zuffa has not just bothered me personally with their crap political support of their government ie support the war(INVASION), support SOPA ect but they have also disrespected many many fighters publicly. They underpay fighters regularly & then dana white goes out every week and spends hundreds & thousands of dollars just on gambling at his mobster friends casinos. zuffa uses their shill media to help them gain fans whilst turning mma viewers against fighters. MMA hour should be called UFC HOUR. The tommy toe hold show is also geared towards making people like dana white but laugh at & disrespect the fighters. The other mma websites are all ufc shill websites imo. Its good to be here. I wanted to say things for a long time but would you believe a lot of people I know are just ufc fans not mma fans.
Its sad. You know the type right? They call mma fighters ufc fighters. They don't say i'm going to watch an mma fight tonight they say they are going to watch a ufc fight tonight. They think ufc is an actual martial art
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Post by fatty on Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:04 pm

INSIDE MMA show on AXISTV.
The show always begins with an image of freemason cult member michael schiavello standing next to hulk  Hogan. When ever I see that image I wonder if that fat bloated freemason pig is recruiting celebrities/fighters as part of his job requirement. I can only speculate but I now am suspicious of every one he has interviewed or hangs with. This weirdo put me off watching Invicta fights.

Anyway I wanted to show an interview involving Bas Ruten with Kenny Rice that is fairly old now but sharing anyway.
Kenny Rice completely sucks ufc balls during the interview. Just another example of ufc shill media folks.
check it out if you have not seen it & comment please.
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Post by CDF47 on Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:28 pm

fatty wrote:INSIDE MMA show on AXISTV.
The show always begins with an image of freemason cult member michael schiavello standing next to hulk  Hogan. When ever I see that image I wonder if that fat bloated freemason pig is recruiting celebrities/fighters as part of his job requirement. I can only speculate but I now am suspicious of every one he has interviewed or hangs with. This weirdo put me off watching Invicta fights.

Anyway I wanted to show an interview involving Bas Ruten with Kenny Rice that is fairly old now but sharing anyway.
Kenny Rice completely sucks ufc balls during the interview. Just another example of ufc shill media folks.
check it out if you have not seen it & comment please.

Yeah that was one of the worst AXS TV Zuffa shill interviews I can remember. When HDNet started out, they were pro all MMA and were competition to UFC but now they are on the Zuffa shill wagon.

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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by Hamilcar on Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:18 am

fatty wrote:
iforgotmypassword wrote:We might see a new champ. Look at this

http://illuminatiwatcher.com/decoding-illuminati-symbolism-the-all-seeing-eye/




I am some how not surprised yet very disappointed at the same time in cat.z for this image. I just lost respect for her now, I actually kinda liked her. Such a pity. Time to throw this guy in to this thread I suppose...


Good ol benson Henderson loves showing us a triangle  before & after his fights without any media scrutiny what so ever. I have yet to hear some one...anyone especially benson Henderson explain the precise meaning of his triangle hand signals. I speculate its a weird illuminati cult thing but please can some one correct me if I am wrong.


I am sick of the one eye thing! I was just in a Chinese store today and saw some Chinese celebs doing it on magazine covers too! UGH! So now, Zingano is a useful idiot for Them, too, now, huh? But why Zingano? If anyone, you would think Rousey would be in on it first.


About Henderson's triangle thing, that is a Gracie jujitsu thing. Or at least they think it is. Of course it's a Freemason/Illuminati cult symbol. But the Gracie's use it and think it their own. Henderson, is just an ignorant user of it. And yes, he was asked about it before (on the The UFC HOUR), it looked like he honestly had never heard of the Illuminati.
The same hand symbol is used in Taekwondo as part some poomses. So, I suspect it has Eastern religion origins like some other occult symbols.
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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by fatty on Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:49 am

Thanks for the info Hamilcar I am honestly relieved a little that this Benson Henderson is not another weirdo cult member but its still suspect to me because famous people doing hand signals these days is just not cool. It does usually mean something sinister to most people like with cat zhingano. I just don't want to know anything more about her now. If she wins her upcoming fight or loses now I just don't care. Before I saw that image she had my respect but no more.
And thanks again folks for not deleting this thread & my comments in general. I ask you ...considering the speculative anti zuffa , anti corporate, anti corruption, anti genocide (war ion terror my ass!) anti greed nature of my talk ...how quickly would my comments last on ANY other mma forum?
I think my comments would disappear quicker than a fart in a hurricane if I tried to speak this stuff any where else so thanks for letting me speak.  


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Post by TeamJohnPerretti on Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:57 am

Rafiel Torre


He was very, very popular on the UG(mma.tv), did work for the tv coverage of King of the Cage and some other media stuff. Also a 1-0 fighter.

Then he choked to death the husband of some girl that he was sleeping with. Gerald Strebendt(UFC Fighter)(1) eventually helped testify against him and get him convicted.




"Rafiel Torre was convicted in Rancho Cucamonga, Calif.'s West Valley Superior Court Thursday for the December 2001 murder of Bryan Richards, the husband of Torre's former mistress.


The 11-woman, 1-man jury, which began deliberations on the case Monday, also ruled Torre's killing of Richards was made for financial gain — Richards had a $1 million life insurance policy — leaving open the possibility that Torre could receive the death penalty. The prosecution, however, has decided against pursuing this option. Instead, he will likely be sentenced to life in prison without possibility of parole.*


Covered by trash bags and wheeled dollies, Richards was found in the bed of his pick-up truck parked in a local supermarket parking lot. He was murdered by what prosecutors described as a "lion killer" choke (in MMA vernacular a "rear-naked” choke).


Torre, 40, trained and taught Brazilian jiu-jitsu under the guise of being a black belt in the grappling sport, but later admitted that his credentials were inflated. He fought just once, a dubious February 2001 submission victory in King of the Cage versus Ioka Tianuu.


While testifying, Torre — known in mixed martial arts circles as a part-time reporter, personality, broadcaster and fighter — alleged that his girlfriend, Angelina Richards, was in fact responsible for her 32-year-old husband's death, but that at her behest he aided in covering up the murder.


"That was her idea, not mine," Torre testified."



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(1)In a side note. He's currently in court for shooting a man to death in Oregon after getting into a car accident. Gerald also was the first fighter to execute Eddie Bravo's Twister in a MMA match.
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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by fatty on Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:10 am


The guy on the right is Rafiel Torre I think with a quick image search. Never even heard of the man before but that is a dark life style he got him self into right there...
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The ug stinks it is absolutely filled with know it all bullies & shills. This guy just makes me think how easily mma knowledge is being passed to idiots who then use their knowledge to abuse people.

Martial artists seem to have no concept of honour I some times wonder if there was ever a time when they did. Guy seems to be very sleazy & remorseless.

I hope he like them jail showers.
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Post by TeamJohnPerretti on Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:20 am

Thanks for posting this fatty. ^^^

Yes the guy on the right is Torre. He was very popular with the internet fan boys at one time.
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Re: People in mma that are dodgy....

Post by fatty on Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:23 am


No problem I got very curious when I saw what you wrote...another great post from you bud.
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