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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by Rizin=PRIDEFC on Thu May 21, 2015 7:58 am

This discussion is pointless!!!

Time will show ... we will see will best Kunlun fighters go to UFC and UFC dropouts to Kunlun!

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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by stu3ufc on Thu May 21, 2015 8:22 am

King fedor comes in the thread and destroys 2 worthless trolls

great job brother

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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by Rizin=PRIDEFC on Thu May 21, 2015 8:24 am

Article is old and Kunlun is more kickboxing so I think Kunlun is not feeder (at least KB part)
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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by Rizin=PRIDEFC on Thu May 21, 2015 9:26 am

About other orgs

Bellator
+ has the best talent pool
+ big budget
+ prodution/ramp walk-outs
- most of cards are not that good
- they have unified rules
- they do not pay they fighters good enough where I see zuffa mentality. They like zuffa (and so many others) care just for money.
-/+ for cage(optional) for me -

Just simply if they put good card I will watch if not then I will not. And I am not interested for most cards like last Bellator 137 who did not have any big names but  guy who was UFC dropout and 3-4 in last 7 fights fighting for title  

fka Bellator is not perfect Very Happy so lil less hype

ONE
+ great fighters in small divsions(like Aoki, Askren)
+ PRIDE rules
- no big guys HW/LH   they work on that with fighters like Vera but still far away form what I would like
-/+ cage

I do not like small divsions so  that is big - for me personally

M-1
-- can not keep fighters
+/- ring in shape of octagon (how is that called?)
+ they improve, have superfights(Tybura-Puetz) go in new countries (China is big thing)

KSW
-- can not keep fighters
+ great production
+/- cage

IGF
-- no big name fighters
+ only HWs
+ PRIDE style
+ PRIDE rules
-/+ allowed elbows

and stu3fc it is not all about Kunlun there is somthing in G.F.C too Very Happy


I hope Sakakibara is preparing something with IGF and Bellator for NYE!
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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by stu3ufc on Thu May 21, 2015 11:26 am

ahaha yeah GFC is gonna be good too I just wish they would put more money into the TV production the camera work is so amatuerish.

I really dont care about the MMA side of Kunlun. Top kickboxing org with a good SHW grand prix going on and GFC I cant wait for Hari vs Catlin mourosanu ahahah

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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by PRIDE4EVER on Thu May 21, 2015 12:14 pm

Totally off topic but speaking of kickboxing did legend in Russia ever announce they are officially done? I know they were having some financial problems. They haven't had an event in over a year so anyone know the deal?
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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by Rizin=PRIDEFC on Thu May 21, 2015 3:45 pm

PRIDE4EVER wrote:Totally off topic but speaking of kickboxing did legend in Russia ever announce they are officially done? I know they were having some financial problems. They haven't had an event in over a year so anyone know the deal?
They never came like "people we are dead" it was it will be in June, it will be soon, it will be on new year a lot of dates and then they just became quiet. I wrote to them in Decembr of last year and they told me that there will be LEGEND 4 for sure and then I wrote to them in March and they did not answer at all so I do not know. I just sent them email asking will there be LEGEND 4 hope I will get answer.
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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by Audax on Thu May 21, 2015 4:12 pm

LEGENDMMA=PRIDEFC wrote:About other orgs

Bellator
+ has the best talent pool
+ big budget
+ prodution/ramp walk-outs
- most of cards are not that good
- they have unified rules
- they do not pay they fighters good enough where I see zuffa mentality. They like zuffa (and so many others) care just for money.
-/+ for cage(optional) for me -

Just simply if they put good card I will watch if not then I will not. And I am not interested for most cards like last Bellator 137 who did not have any big names but  guy who was UFC dropout and 3-4 in last 7 fights fighting for title  

fka Bellator is not perfect Very Happy so lil less hype

ONE
+ great fighters in small divsions(like Aoki, Askren)
+ PRIDE rules
- no big guys HW/LH   they work on that with fighters like Vera but still far away form what I would like
-/+ cage

I do not like small divsions so  that is big - for me personally

M-1
-- can not keep fighters
+/- ring in shape of octagon (how is that called?)
+ they improve, have superfights(Tybura-Puetz) go in new countries (China is big thing)

KSW
-- can not keep fighters
+ great production
+/- cage

IGF
-- no big name fighters
+ only HWs
+ PRIDE style
+ PRIDE rules
-/+ allowed elbows

and stu3fc it is not all about Kunlun there is somthing in G.F.C too Very Happy


I hope Sakakibara is preparing something with IGF and Bellator for NYE!

Constructive post LEGENDMMA=PRIDEFC. In M-1 they call their environment the rage.
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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by stu3ufc on Fri May 22, 2015 8:21 am

LEGENDMMA=PRIDEFC wrote:
PRIDE4EVER wrote:Totally off topic but speaking of kickboxing did legend in Russia ever announce they are officially done? I know they were having some financial problems. They haven't had an event in over a year so anyone know the deal?
They never came like "people we are dead" it was it will be in June, it will be soon, it will be on new year a lot of dates and then they just became quiet.  I wrote to them in Decembr of last year and they told me that there will be LEGEND 4 for sure and then I wrote to them in March and they did not answer at all so I do not know. I just sent them email asking will there be LEGEND 4 hope I will get answer.

Thanks for the info bro....

dude ur gonna have to change ur username at this rate Rolling LMAO sadly!

hope they come back

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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by PRIDE4EVER on Fri May 22, 2015 10:44 am

Its a real shame Legend shows were awesome.
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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by InfinityLens on Tue May 26, 2015 10:50 am

In this article they seem to want to compete
http://www.mmaweekly.com/kunlun-fc-aiming-to-be-a-player-on-the-asian-fight-scene

But in the OP they seam to want to work with Zuffa.

In the instance of Wang Sai they seam to want to compete even referring to Kunlun as a better deal on their Facebook.
https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1592844714333401&id=1499200780364462

Though they act as a feeder with Mayra Moro (though it may not be their fault)
http://www.global-mma.com/t11812-zuffa-sign-kunlun-star

In the article were they want to compete they mostly mention Kickboxing and that's their main thing. When it comes to MMA they show various behaviour.

I would say they want to put up a fight with Kickboxing but with mma they will compete when they can but will be fine with acting as a feeder to bigger orgs particularly Zuffa.
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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by stu3ufc on Tue May 26, 2015 12:40 pm

Thanks for posting the truth.

this thread was so fucking ridiculous.

Kunlun have had like 2 MMA cage events. They are a kickboxing org

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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by fka on Tue May 26, 2015 3:25 pm

Nice back tracking bro lmfao

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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by TeamJohnPerretti on Tue May 26, 2015 6:55 pm

PRIDE4EVER was out of line throughout this thread.

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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by TeamJohnPerretti on Tue May 26, 2015 6:58 pm

fka and PRIDE4EVER in this thread have shown that they dont care about quality discussion.

Trolling and supporting cage brawling is where their interests are focused.
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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by stu3ufc on Tue May 26, 2015 8:28 pm

fka wrote:Nice back tracking bro lmfao

shit thread from a shit poster


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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by fka on Tue May 26, 2015 10:10 pm

Quality discussion....?

Lmfao coming from the guy who constantly leaves the same cage wrasslin posts in every thread....

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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by Nf526 on Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:46 am

So wait Kunlun is run by Zuffa? Why is everyone so mad about it, I mean Zuffa has a ton of feeders why is this one so bad? It's just another shit organization then.
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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by fka on Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:48 am

Ha ha i agree ^^^^

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Post by Nf526 on Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:50 am

I mean the article was pretty clear they seem to be cool with working with Zuffa it's undeniable.
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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by CODELMJVG on Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:27 am

fka wrote:I like the ring but i dont think it is necessary to produce high quality fights its mostly the scoring and ruleset that determines that imo.

I've seen plenty of boring fights in a ring and ive had as many grievances about the ring as the cage.

Honestly the environment is not the most important part to making good fights.

Pretty much everyone switched to cage even Japan where the cage was scoffed at.......the cage being tossed in favor of ring is highly unlikely.

Dude M-1 ring design has both element of cage and ring what more do you want it has the grappling element and the striking element of blend together and no one is talking about to adopt it.
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Post by CODELMJVG on Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:37 am

CODELMJVG wrote:
fka wrote:I like the ring but i dont think it is necessary to produce high quality fights its mostly the scoring and ruleset that determines that imo.

I've seen plenty of boring fights in a ring and ive had as many grievances about the ring as the cage.

Honestly the environment is not the most important part to making good fights.

Pretty much everyone switched to cage even Japan where the cage was scoffed at.......the cage being tossed in favor of ring is highly unlikely.

Dude M-1 ring design has both element of cage and ring what more do you want it has the grappling element and the striking element of blend together and no one is talking about to adopt it.

No resets no ring outs no wall stall tactics small ring viewable for fans excellent alternatives to ring and cage.
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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by stu3ufc on Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:45 am

shit poster brings up shit thread once again]

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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by stu3ufc on Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:50 am

Nf526 wrote:So wait Kunlun is run by Zuffa?  Why is everyone so mad about it, I mean Zuffa has a ton of feeders why is this one so bad? It's just another shit organization then.
do you have proof of this?

an unknown chinese kickboxing organisation working with zuffa?


if not then youre talking out your ass as always

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Re: Dear Kunlun supporters, you are supporting a Chinese Zuffa feeder.

Post by fka on Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:06 pm

Im a supporter of rage ....

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