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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:18 am

Obviously, congrats to Werdum as he earned it. I'm a Cain fan but he earned it.

I want to say that I'm so tired of the "Octagon Jitters" bullshit as Rogan brought it up regarding Alvarez. Yeah. The guy fought in front of 20,000 people multiple times in Japan for DREAM and millions on TV. He fought in front of 25,000 fans as the second to last fight against Shinya Aoki at Dynamite!!! 2008. He fought in Bellator in front of crowds that had a few thousand and thousands watching on TV. The Chandler II fight had a million people watching. Yet, he's going to get nervous fighting in the UFC for the first time. Right.
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Re: UFC 188: Velasquez vs Werdum Live Stream and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Rizin=PRIDEFC on Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:28 am

Who am I to disrespect Werdum and all honor to him he beat and Fedor and Cain if you told me that 6 years ago I would... you know... but I fell like Werdum could be just luckiest man alive who got old Fedor and old Cain. If Werdum in now G.O.A.T what is or was Overeem who beat Werdum right after Fedor. What I am trying to say Werdum vs. JDS 2 would answer to me almost all so I hope it happens next.
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Re: UFC 188: Velasquez vs Werdum Live Stream and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by CDF47 on Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:34 am

Werdum is the champ!!!!  SF had the slightly better HW division over UFC at the time this was debated.  Werdum is a legend fighter now and one of the best of all time but Fedor is still the GOAT.  No one has accomplished what he has with his 10 year unbeaten streak.

Cain is a great fighter but now there is no doubt, Werdum is the best.  Werdum vs. JDS 2 and Werdum vs. Overeem 2 make sense now. I'd like to see Cain vs Overeem first though.

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Re: UFC 188: Velasquez vs Werdum Live Stream and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Rocksoldier84 on Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:50 am

JDS should not get the next shot. He got smashed by Cain in his last title shot and he barely got by Miocic. He should put a win streak together before he gets another. I rather see Arlovski or Miocic get the next crack.
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Post by Rizin=PRIDEFC on Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:09 am

So guys... how do you now after all good and bad see Overeem?

I always thought Overeem was overrated but I think since he is in UFC that he is underrated. I think Overeem has problem with some styles but has great for other styles and fghters I would like to see so many fights with Overeem. Btw people do not forget that Josh Barnett is back in action and he could make HW division more interesting.
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Re: UFC 188: Velasquez vs Werdum Live Stream and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by stu3ufc on Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:50 am

when ppl were so fucking sure of themselves cain would demolish werdum


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Post by Aunt Red on Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:19 pm

Can velasquez. I loved seeing him pummeled and tapped out.

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Re: UFC 188: Velasquez vs Werdum Live Stream and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by CDF47 on Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:54 pm

UFC:
HW Champ - Strikeforce Fighter
LHW Champ - Strikeforce Fighter
MW Champ - Was in Neither Org at the time (5 Years Ago When This Was Debated)
WW Champ - SF Fighter
LW Champ - UFC Fighter
Women's Champ - SF Fighter

Crazy, these were all suppose to be just minor leaguers. SF was suppose to be the Canadian Football League compared to the UFC as the NFL.


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Re: UFC 188: Velasquez vs Werdum Live Stream and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by backdoor to zuffa on Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:17 pm

So Cain has been stopped quite brutally in 2 of his first 15 fights. This is why people should be careful to anoint new GOATS after a guy goes on a decent run for a short while. Longevity used to mean something back in the day.

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Re: UFC 188: Velasquez vs Werdum Live Stream and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by westcott123 on Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:35 pm

CDF47 wrote:UFC:
HW Champ - Strikeforce Fighter
LHW Champ - Strikeforce Fighter
MW Champ - Was in Neither Org at the time (5 Years Ago When This Was Debated)
WW Champ - SF Fighter
LW Champ - UFC Fighter
Women's Champ - SF Fighter

Crazy, these were all suppose to be just minor leaguers. SF was suppose to be the Canadian Football League compared to the UFC as the NFL.

werdum is also a former pride fighter as well 5th one to win a ufc belt and remember those wec minor leaguers


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Post by Aunt Red on Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:07 pm

strikeforce after elitexc closed down wasn't really a minor league.

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Re: UFC 188: Velasquez vs Werdum Live Stream and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Hamilcar on Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:22 pm

CDF47 wrote:UFC:
HW Champ - Strikeforce Fighter
LHW Champ - Strikeforce Fighter
MW Champ - Was in Neither Org at the time (5 Years Ago When This Was Debated)
WW Champ - SF Fighter
LW Champ - UFC Fighter
Women's Champ - SF Fighter

Crazy, these were all suppose to be just minor leaguers. SF was suppose to be the Canadian Football League compared to the UFC as the NFL.

Yep. I still remember all the articles and interviews about StrikeForce, even asking the StrikeForce fighters how they feel being in a second-rate organization and wasting away their prime outside of the UFC.
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Re: UFC 188: Velasquez vs Werdum Live Stream and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Rocksoldier84 on Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:22 am

Hamilcar wrote:
CDF47 wrote:UFC:
HW Champ - Strikeforce Fighter
LHW Champ - Strikeforce Fighter
MW Champ - Was in Neither Org at the time (5 Years Ago When This Was Debated)
WW Champ - SF Fighter
LW Champ - UFC Fighter
Women's Champ - SF Fighter

Crazy, these were all suppose to be just minor leaguers. SF was suppose to be the Canadian Football League compared to the UFC as the NFL.

Yep.  I still remember all the articles and interviews about StrikeForce, even asking the StrikeForce fighters how they feel being in a second-rate organization and wasting away their prime outside of the UFC.  

Not to mention, it gets annoying to hear "fans" and "journalist" always say everytime a talented fighter outside the does good how they can't wait for them to go to the UFC or they need to be in the UFC.
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Re: UFC 188: Velasquez vs Werdum Live Stream and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by CDF47 on Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:17 pm

westcott123 wrote:
CDF47 wrote:UFC:
HW Champ - Strikeforce Fighter
LHW Champ - Strikeforce Fighter
MW Champ - Was in Neither Org at the time (5 Years Ago When This Was Debated)
WW Champ - SF Fighter
LW Champ - UFC Fighter
Women's Champ - SF Fighter

Crazy, these were all suppose to be just minor leaguers. SF was suppose to be the Canadian Football League compared to the UFC as the NFL.

werdum is also a former pride fighter as well 6th one to win a ufc belt and remember those wec minor leaguers

Very true, and oh yeah, I remember those WEC minor league guys. LOL

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Re: UFC 188: Velasquez vs Werdum Live Stream and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by CDF47 on Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:18 pm

Hamilcar wrote:
CDF47 wrote:UFC:
HW Champ - Strikeforce Fighter
LHW Champ - Strikeforce Fighter
MW Champ - Was in Neither Org at the time (5 Years Ago When This Was Debated)
WW Champ - SF Fighter
LW Champ - UFC Fighter
Women's Champ - SF Fighter

Crazy, these were all suppose to be just minor leaguers. SF was suppose to be the Canadian Football League compared to the UFC as the NFL.

Yep.  I still remember all the articles and interviews about StrikeForce, even asking the StrikeForce fighters how they feel being in a second-rate organization and wasting away their prime outside of the UFC.  

Those articles use to drive me nuts. SF was called minor leagues, CFL, second rate,.... What a joke.

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Re: UFC 188: Velasquez vs Werdum Live Stream and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by CDF47 on Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:20 pm

Rocksoldier84 wrote:
Hamilcar wrote:
CDF47 wrote:UFC:
HW Champ - Strikeforce Fighter
LHW Champ - Strikeforce Fighter
MW Champ - Was in Neither Org at the time (5 Years Ago When This Was Debated)
WW Champ - SF Fighter
LW Champ - UFC Fighter
Women's Champ - SF Fighter

Crazy, these were all suppose to be just minor leaguers. SF was suppose to be the Canadian Football League compared to the UFC as the NFL.

Yep.  I still remember all the articles and interviews about StrikeForce, even asking the StrikeForce fighters how they feel being in a second-rate organization and wasting away their prime outside of the UFC.  

Not to mention, it gets annoying to hear "fans" and "journalist" always say everytime a talented fighter outside the does good how they can't wait for them to go to the UFC or they need to be in the UFC.

Yeah, that still happens all the time. Some of them saying that are controlled shills, some are uneducated in MMA, and some are just brainwashed.

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Re: UFC 188: Velasquez vs Werdum Live Stream and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Aunt Red on Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:22 pm

Lawler was killing dudes in UFC long before he was in SF. He left because he was too exciting for them.


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Post by CDF47 on Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:35 pm

Werdum/JDS should be next...then AA gets winner

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Post by God of Thunder on Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:43 pm

Aunt Red wrote:Lawler was killing dudes in UFC long before he was in SF. He left because he was too exciting for them.

Lawler was in SF when Dane called it bush league.
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Post by Aunt Red on Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:18 pm

Dane being Dane.

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Post by CDF47 on Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:12 pm

Golden Age wrote:
Aunt Red wrote:Lawler was killing dudes in UFC long before he was in SF. He left because he was too exciting for them.

Lawler was in SF when Dane called it bush league.

It's crazy seeing all these Bush League fighters tearing shit up in the UFC. Who would have thunk???

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Re: UFC 188: Velasquez vs Werdum Live Stream and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Rocksoldier84 on Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:17 pm

fka wrote:Werdum is now the best hw of all time!!!

First to sub the holy trio of fedor,big nog,and velasquez.


Everyone saying fedor lost to a ufc washout can eat a huge dick!!!!

Jds vs werdum 2

I remember when Fedor lost to Werdum and Dana would mention how they cut Werdum for losing.
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