ONE FC 33: Pride Of Lions Askren vs. Santos 2 - November 13 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

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Post by Kingfedor on Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:37 pm


One FC 33 
November 13, 2015
Stadium Putra
Kallang, Singapore


Main Card:
Ben Askren (14-0)                    vs.         (61-9) Luis Santos  
Main Event |  Title Fight | Welterweight | 170 lbs (77 kg)

D Sor Amnuaysirichoke (5-0)     vs.           (3-0) Yago Bryan  
Co-Main Event |  Title Fight | Strawweight | 115 lbs (52 kg)

Major Overall (6-1)                   vs.     (22-10) Kotetsu Boku  
Co-Main Event | Featherweight | 145 lbs (66 kg)

Jimmy Yabo (4-1)                     vs.            (9-3) Amir Khan  
Main Card | Featherweight | 145 lbs (66 kg)

Angela Lee (2-0)                       vs.          (2-2) Natalie Hills  
Main Card | Female Fyweight | 115 lbs (52 kg)


In a post on social media this morning, ONE Championship announced that the long-awaited #AskrenSantos2 rematch will take place on 13 November at ONE: PRIDE OF LIONS in Singapore. More fight card details are set to follow.


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Re: ONE FC 33: Pride Of Lions Askren vs. Santos 2 - November 13 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by fka on Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:41 pm

YES!!!!!!

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Re: ONE FC 33: Pride Of Lions Askren vs. Santos 2 - November 13 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by stu3ufc on Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:38 pm

Sucks how this fight ended first time

Askren had his hands full with Sapo!

Sapo is no joke!

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Re: ONE FC 33: Pride Of Lions Askren vs. Santos 2 - November 13 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by CDF47 on Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:46 pm

Cannot wait for this rematch. Sapo has a good shot of taking the belt based on this first fight. Glad this one is booked.

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Re: ONE FC 33: Pride Of Lions Askren vs. Santos 2 - November 13 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by Hamilcar on Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:19 am

I still predict Askren dominating Sapo and even getting a submission finish on him. I don't think it will last long.

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Re: ONE FC 33: Pride Of Lions Askren vs. Santos 2 - November 13 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by wekka on Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:42 pm

Hamilcar wrote:I still predict Askren dominating Sapo and even getting a submission finish on him.  I don't think it will last long.

Same.

I think Askren just made the mistake of thinking their first fight would be a walk in the park.
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Re: ONE FC 33: Pride Of Lions Askren vs. Santos 2 - November 13 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by fka on Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:48 pm

Yeah askren will destroy sapo

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Re: ONE FC 33: Pride Of Lions Askren vs. Santos 2 - November 13 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by nodogoshi on Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:01 pm

I am not sleeping on Sapo.

I actually think Sapo has more room to improve in his preparation.

I don't think Askren took him lightly and that's an explanation.

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Re: ONE FC 33: Pride Of Lions Askren vs. Santos 2 - November 13 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

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Post by CDF47 on Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:47 pm

nodogoshi wrote:I am not sleeping on Sapo.

I actually think Sapo has more room to improve in his preparation.

I don't think Askren took him lightly and that's an explanation.

Me neither.  Sapo was putting an ass whooping on Askren so I will not underestimate him in a rematch.  Sapo is a dangerous opponent for anyone. Askren should still be the favorite but Sapo has a shot here.

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Re: ONE FC 33: Pride Of Lions Askren vs. Santos 2 - November 13 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by Hamilcar on Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:52 am

Askren is a winner. That is, he has that winner's mentality and ability to win at all times that comes from a dominating psychological mindset. Cormier and GSP are other examples of this. I just don't see him losing. Having some trouble, sure. But he is someone who always dominates and I don't see that changing until he gets old.

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Re: ONE FC 33: Pride Of Lions Askren vs. Santos 2 - November 13 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by CDF47 on Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:58 am

Hamilcar wrote:Askren is a winner.  That is, he has that winner's mentality and ability to win at all times that comes from a dominating psychological mindset.  Cormier and GSP are other examples of this.  I just don't see him losing.  Having some trouble, sure.  But he is someone who always dominates and I don't see that changing until he gets old.

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Re: ONE FC 33: Pride Of Lions Askren vs. Santos 2 - November 13 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by stu3ufc on Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:49 am

Sapo was ragdolling him around until he eye poked

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Post by CDF47 on Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:51 am

stu3ufc wrote:Sapo was ragdolling him around until he eye poked

Yeah, Sapo was putting a whooping on Askren like I thought I would never see, up until it ended with the eye poke.

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Re: ONE FC 33: Pride Of Lions Askren vs. Santos 2 - November 13 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by nodogoshi on Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:11 am

I got Sapo all the way.

Askren is getting knocked out.

Nothing against him but that's what I'm seeing.

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Post by Hamilcar on Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:48 am

Here's the thing, though. If Sapo gets taken down by Askren, can he get back up? Yeah, yeah, I know, Sapo stopped Askren's initial slow, telegraphed takedowns while both were fresh and untired; but, if he did get taken down: Could he get back up?

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Post by CDF47 on Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:26 am

nodogoshi wrote:I got Sapo all the way.

Askren is getting knocked out.

Nothing against him but that's what I'm seeing.

I wouldn't be surprised.

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Post by CDF47 on Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:28 am

Hamilcar wrote:Here's the thing, though.  If Sapo gets taken down by Askren, can he get back up?  Yeah, yeah, I know, Sapo stopped Askren's initial slow, telegraphed takedowns while both were fresh and untired; but, if he did get taken down: Could he get back up?

Not sure. Once Askren gets control on the ground, it's tough for anyone to do anything.

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Post by nodogoshi on Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:21 pm

Hamilcar wrote:Here's the thing, though.  If Sapo gets taken down by Askren, can he get back up?  Yeah, yeah, I know, Sapo stopped Askren's initial slow, telegraphed takedowns while both were fresh and untired; but, if he did get taken down: Could he get back up?

Askren is one dimensional.

I don't think he can win the fight with Sapo with a takedown.

There is a potential that he takes him down and rides out a round, but his takedown game did not work against Sapo the last time.

No, it wasn't telegraphed takedowns.

Askren is a superb wrestler who is a multi-time NCAA champion and a former Olympian.

I do not buy the notion that Askren simply took Sapo lightly.

I do expect an improved gameplan from Askren, but I expect the same from Sapo.

Sapo is very good on his feet, and he nullified Askren's takedowns last time. He is a more versatile fighter.

I am calling a Sapo knockout.

But it is a very exciting fight.

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Post by CDF47 on Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:29 pm

nodogoshi wrote:
Hamilcar wrote:Here's the thing, though.  If Sapo gets taken down by Askren, can he get back up?  Yeah, yeah, I know, Sapo stopped Askren's initial slow, telegraphed takedowns while both were fresh and untired; but, if he did get taken down: Could he get back up?

Askren is one dimensional.

I don't think he can win the fight with Sapo with a takedown.

There is a potential that he takes him down and rides out a round, but his takedown game did not work against Sapo the last time.

No, it wasn't telegraphed takedowns.

Askren is a superb wrestler who is a multi-time NCAA champion and a former Olympian.

I do not buy the notion that Askren simply took Sapo lightly.

I do expect an improved gameplan from Askren, but I expect the same from Sapo.

Sapo is very good on his feet, and he nullified Askren's takedowns last time. He is a more versatile fighter.

I am calling a Sapo knockout.

But it is a very exciting fight.

Great points. Can't wait for this fight. I'll probably have to order this event live.

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Post by fka on Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:29 pm

I think askren was embarrassed by last showing i just see him gnp or submitting sapo.

Sapo isnt goibg to adjust much imo because he had such success.i honestly think askren overlooked sapo but will for sure have a better gamplan.



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Post by nodogoshi on Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:21 pm

Askren's game plan never changes much. He's a wrestler first and foremost. He is such a superb wrestler that it works typically, but Sapo had an answer for his wrestling. He is not going to hang with Sapo on the feet, no way.

Askren could win with superior conditioning, if Sapo gasses. Otherwise, Sapo knocks him out standing.

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Post by Hamilcar on Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:45 am

nodogoshi wrote:
Hamilcar wrote:Here's the thing, though.  If Sapo gets taken down by Askren, can he get back up?  Yeah, yeah, I know, Sapo stopped Askren's initial slow, telegraphed takedowns while both were fresh and untired; but, if he did get taken down: Could he get back up?

Askren is one dimensional.

I don't think he can win the fight with Sapo with a takedown.

There is a potential that he takes him down and rides out a round, but his takedown game did not work against Sapo the last time.

No, it wasn't telegraphed takedowns.

Askren is a superb wrestler who is a multi-time NCAA champion and a former Olympian.

I do not buy the notion that Askren simply took Sapo lightly.

I do expect an improved gameplan from Askren, but I expect the same from Sapo.

Sapo is very good on his feet, and he nullified Askren's takedowns last time. He is a more versatile fighter.

I am calling a Sapo knockout.

But it is a very exciting fight.

His takedowns looked slow is what I mean. Even when I watched the fight, as soon as he did those takedowns I thought "slow". They weren't like his usual takedowns or GSP's, Johnson's or Cormiers where they are on the guy in flash. Something was wrong there, I felt. I felt like they were maybe his version of a spaz attack. He was just throwing the takedown out there without the proper timing or setup or whatever and hoping it stuck. If the fight went, on, I think we would have seen none of those kind of takedowns and seen the real thing.
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Post by stu3ufc on Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:19 pm

nodogoshi wrote:Askren's game plan never changes much. He's a wrestler first and foremost. He is such a superb wrestler that it works typically, but Sapo had an answer for his wrestling. He is not going to hang with Sapo on the feet, no way.

Askren could win with superior conditioning, if Sapo gasses. Otherwise, Sapo knocks him out standing.


Sapo was a handful .... but we never got to see how the fight would have ended it's crazy

shame about the eye poke

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Post by nodogoshi on Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:27 pm

stu3ufc wrote:
nodogoshi wrote:Askren's game plan never changes much. He's a wrestler first and foremost. He is such a superb wrestler that it works typically, but Sapo had an answer for his wrestling. He is not going to hang with Sapo on the feet, no way.

Askren could win with superior conditioning, if Sapo gasses. Otherwise, Sapo knocks him out standing.


Sapo was a handful .... but we never got to see how the fight would have ended it's crazy

shame about the eye poke

Sapo wins by KO, or Askren wins by Sapo gassing.

It reminds me of Lawler-McCdonald (or whatever his name was).

Hopefully Sapo is doing his road work.

I am a fan of Askren. But it is Sapo's fight to win.

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