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Post by fka on Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:50 pm

Im doing 29 events leading up to bjorns departure

Bellator 93-122,(excluding 120 ppv to event which did 100,000 buys and the prelims did 712,000 avg views)
2 events under 500,000 avg viewers,1 event did 1 million

Bellator 93)748,000 avg viewers
94)713,000
95)901,000
96)480,000
97)678,000
98)437,000
99)660,000
100)736,000
101)649,000
102)675,000
103)539,000
104)615,000
105)520,000
106)1.1 million
107)683,000
108)793,000
109)691,000
110)880,000
111)653,000
112)649,000
113)507,000
114)711,000
115)830,000
116)642,000
117)617,000
118)701,000
119)511,000
121)688,000
122)582,000


Scott coker tenure from 2014 to present...

29 events ,from Bellator 123 to Bellator 151
0 events under 500,000 avg views,3 events over 1 million avg views,1 event 2million avg views.

Bellator 123)-777,000 avg viewers
124)771,000 avg
125)742,000
126)656,000
127)670,000
128)731,000
129)683,000
130)755,000
131)1.8 million
132)767,000
133)606,000
134)872,000
135)607,000
136)655,000
137)594,000
138)1.5 million
139)764,000
140)722,000
141)666,000
142)800,000
143)669,000
144)555,000
145)814,000
146)650,000
147)656,000
148)566,000
149)2 million
150)733,000
151)768,000
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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by fka on Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:54 pm

Coker is bringing in on average 138,000 more viewers.

Add to that making more money at live gates and from sponsors,expanding globally,new kickboxing org.

Bellator is steadily growing from viewers to live attendence it isnt always pretty but it will lead to better days.

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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by CDF47 on Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:57 pm

Good stats fka. Coker is doing good things for Bellator and this new partnership with RIZIN is excellent. Crazy that Wand is now signed to both Bellator and RIZIN. Great to see MMA operating this way.

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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by Kinosis on Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:28 pm

Coker is growing Bellator, signing big names, working out deals to trade fighters with other organizations and supports JMMA. Can't complain about any of that.

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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by Offense_Wins_Fights on Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:22 pm

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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by Offense_Wins_Fights on Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:25 pm

fka wrote:Im doing 29 events leading up to bjorns departure

Bellator 93-122,(excluding 120 ppv to event which did 100,000 buys and the prelims did 712,000 avg views)
2 events under 500,000 avg viewers,1 event did 1 million
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Scott coker tenure from 2014 to present...

29 events ,from Bellator 123 to Bellator 151
0 events under 500,000 avg views,3 events over 1 million avg views,1 event 2million avg views.

...

Source, for the TV figures?

Why not post the Averages?  That's the money-shot.

And how many Bjorn events did you exclude (of the Spike events)?  I'd like to see that average too.
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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by TeamJohnPerretti on Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:41 pm

Bjorn Bellator was better than Coker Bellator.

For me Bellator isn't that entertaining now.
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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by fka on Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:32 pm

Mmapayout was tge source of these figures i looked up each event.

These were the averages lol the numbers i posted for each event were the averaged viewers not the peak viewership.

I only excluded the ppv because viewers arent available just ppv buys which i posted as well as the prelims average viewers.

I did 29 events because that's how many coker has done since taking over,so for a comparison i used the last 29 events under bjorns leadership.

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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by fka on Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:35 pm

I broke it down pretty easily...its the number of the bellator event)then the average viewers reported.

I may do the peak viewership comparison when i get a chance just for fun.

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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by Offense_Wins_Fights on Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:42 pm

fka wrote:Mmapayout was tge source of these figures i looked up each event.

These were the averages lol the numbers i posted for each event were the averaged viewers not the peak viewership.

I only excluded the ppv because viewers arent available just ppv buys which i posted as well as the prelims average viewers.

I did 29 events because that's how many coker has done since taking over,so for a comparison i used the last 29 events under bjorns leadership.

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MMAPayout :thumbs up:

I know the TV ratings have a "peak" viewership and an  "average" viewership... you're using the average viewership figures, got that.  But what I mean is the average of all 29 events...

Total / 29 = ???

That's the interesting figure for me (quick excel copy-n-paste and I can find out myself, but just asking).  

And I like that you went back only 29 events for Bjorn, to match that of Coker's 29, but I would still ALSO like to look at the figures for the rest of Bjorn events on Spike; in terms of average).
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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by fka on Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:11 pm

Right in buddy Smile

I dont remember the numbers off hand as far as each guys average i just remember coker averaged 138,000 nore viewers.

Feel free to do the numbers and postem.

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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by stu3ufc on Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:10 am

TeamJohnPerretti wrote:Bjorn Bellator was better than Coker Bellator.

For me Bellator isn't that entertaining now.

coker has turned bellator into a freakshow. sure youre getting millions to tune into dada and kimbo but for gods sake just look at the quality of the events...truly shocking.

I do think bellators 205 division is getting good and that they have signed some decent UFC guys like thompson and henderson. The only reason uFC stars are leaving is because of the reebok deal.

I really miss the weekly shows and tournaments. Bellator used to have more of an international feel but now it's biased towards american fighters with favourable match ups.

when are daley and bobby lashley gonna face non cans? far too many squash matches thanks rich chou.

I still think Bjorn would have got there in the end snatching up guys like bendo and saved us from freak shows.....but spike tv dont give a fuck for legit mma just FREAK SHOWS that bring eyes to commercials

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Post by stu3ufc on Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:12 am

Also remember without bjorn...scott coker would be sitting at home twiddling his thumbs. bjorn built bellator from nothing.

Bjorn has left the MMA industry now so there is no point bringing him up. This is a different bellator now ...one that caters to absolute morons

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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by CDF47 on Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:46 pm

^I get some of your points of why you don't like the new Bellator but overall, it's an improvement. Bellator is a key partner with RIZIN, they are making good signings like Sergei, Bendo, Wand and allowing Wand to also sign with RIZIN. This is what MMA should be like. I understand not liking the Kimbo type fights but they bring in viewers. I don't mind them as long as it is not over done and if they help the promotion. Nearly everyone tunes in for these legends and freak show fights as the ratings always show so Viacom and Bellator will stick with them.

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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by fka on Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:41 pm

Ken and kimbo both tested dirty lol atleast they are gonna be off the shelf for a min.

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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by Rocksoldier84 on Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:03 pm

stu3ufc wrote:
TeamJohnPerretti wrote:Bjorn Bellator was better than Coker Bellator.

For me Bellator isn't that entertaining now.

coker has turned bellator into a freakshow. sure youre getting millions to tune into dada and kimbo but for gods sake just look at the quality of the events...truly shocking.

I do think bellators 205 division is getting good and that they have signed some decent UFC guys like thompson and henderson. The only reason uFC stars are leaving is because of the reebok deal.

I really miss the weekly shows and tournaments. Bellator used to have more of an international feel but now it's biased towards american fighters with favourable match ups.

when are daley and bobby lashley gonna face non cans? far too many squash matches thanks rich chou.

I still think Bjorn would have got there in the end snatching up guys like bendo and saved us from freak shows.....but spike tv dont give a fuck for legit mma just FREAK SHOWS that bring eyes to commercials

Bellator doesn't have much freakshows and everyone is guilty of it, even the beloved PRIDE. Kimbo and Shamrock last fought in June before fighting last month. There were no freakshows at the Dynamite event or the November shows.

The weekly shows hurt Bellator because they would then take months off which would kill all their momentum. You can't grow that much by doing 12 shows and then take 2-3 months off. The Tournaments were cool but former champions didn't want to go back into them. They also grinded the fighter who would have to fight three times in 90 days while the champions had to wait and wait for tournaments to conclude and some think that was a big reason why Cole Konrad retired.

As far as an international flavor, there's plenty of it. They're debuting in Italy and I believe the UK this year. They've signed plenty of international talents like Kharitonov, Carmont, Sakara, Kato, Carvalho, Manhoef, Tokoro, Kobayashi, Karakhanyan. Coenen, Cyborg Santos, Daley, John Teixeira, and Ewerton Teixeira to name some. Only two champions are American in Brooks and Straus while they have two Brazilians, two Russians, and a British fighter. Meanwhile, the Bantamweight Title fight they've been trying to book is between two Brazilians while the next Middleweight fight is between a Brazilian and a Surinese-Dutch.

As far as Lashley and Daley go, Lashley had two can fights. Dan Charles is not a can and was a replacement to Thompson and the Thompson fight was a rematch from years ago. As for Daley, he was supposed to fight for the Welterweight Title but Lima pulled out which is why he fought Andre Santos.
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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by Rocksoldier84 on Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:08 pm

fka wrote:Ken and kimbo both tested dirty lol atleast they are gonna be off the shelf for a min.

Yet Shamrock was whining and throwing a fit over a low blow.
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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by stu3ufc on Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:27 am

less freakshows and more even matchups between legit contenders please!

I dont disagree that the weekly format hurt bellator...however I still loved the tournies Smile


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Post by CDF47 on Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:23 pm

^I liked the tournaments as well but some of them were not good since they were over done a bit.  It was a bit too much of tournaments and I am a big fan of the tournaments and GP in this sport.

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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by fka on Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:32 pm

Agreed

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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by Longtime Fan on Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:26 pm

Thanks for putting those stats together bro! Really good job, I've always thought that Scott was the man with the master plan, the only person capable of rallying the troops against the evil Empire that the UFC has going.   It's too premature to judge Scott's reign, we must wait until the future to see the full impact and ramifications of his smart decisions. he is Quiet friendly but very calculated, he is the best person for the job.He is the anti-monopoly man, and you can quote me on that.  

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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by CDF47 on Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:17 pm

^I agree. Coker has one of the best visions for the sport of any promoter and he always has; with the cross-promotions, partnerships, JMMA,.. If he has to throw a few freak show fights and legend fights on there to get ratings up, that is fine by me. I actually enjoy the occasional legend fights, freak show fights, and street fighter type fights.

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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by Offense_Wins_Fights on Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:57 pm

fka wrote:Right in buddy Smile

I dont remember the numbers off hand as far as each guys average i just remember coker averaged 138,000 nore viewers.

Feel free to do the numbers and postem.


Average for Coker's 29 events:
812,034

Average for Bjorn's 29 events:
675,483

Average for Coker's 25 events (MINUS TENTPOLE EVENTS):
697,960
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Post by CDF47 on Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:57 am

So Coker has a 20.22% higher overall number of viewers than Bjorn's previous equal number of events.  Coker is doing a real good job.

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Re: Coker vs Bjorn by the numbers

Post by fka on Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:24 pm

Even without tentpoles hes doing better numbers Smile

Love it!!!!

Haters gonna hate but numbers don't lie bwahaha

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