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Post by Kinosis on Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:00 pm

This was from Meltzer's weekly newsletter:

Updated estimates
UFC 198: 290k
UFC 199: 320k

Something is up with this ufc sell. It's not worth 4 billion and the last couple of PPVs did horribly. I read one article where it said the new owners can expect to earn 200 million in the first year. That sounds like a pretty garbage investment for 4 billion. So what is it? Some kind of mob money laundering scheme? lol. Plus Dana still gets a huge part of the profit (9%) and will be President for 5 years. Why would anyone pay 4 billion and then give 9% of the profit to someone who isn't an owner (unless dana bought in as well)?

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Re: UFC 198/199 did TERRIBLE

Post by CDF47 on Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:55 pm

Plus, the Fertitta brothers and possibly Dana get a minority share of the company on top of all that. Can't see how Zuffa pulled off this deal.

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Re: UFC 198/199 did TERRIBLE

Post by iforgotmypassword on Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:41 pm

oh man. one of the worst sports purchases in history. going to be fun.

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Post by stu3ufc on Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:05 am

$4 BILLION DOLLARS



MUST BE LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK

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Post by Heretic on Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:32 am

I will never understand the dumb luck zuffa has always had especially with TUF
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Post by Rizin=PRIDEFC on Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:08 am

The best thing is that bad cards (IMHO) do better PPV numbers than good cards. Quality is not appreciated in MMA just put Ronda Rosey vs. Bethe Correia and sell 900k while two legends Shogun and Hendo (UFC 139) will do only 300k
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Post by stu3ufc on Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:20 am

Rizin=PRIDEFC wrote:The best thing is that bad cards (IMHO) do better PPV numbers than good cards. Quality is not appreciated in MMA just put Ronda Rosey vs. Bethe Correia and sell 900k while two legends Shogun and Hendo (UFC 139) will do only 300k

American dog cage fans are low brow

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Post by CDF47 on Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:12 pm

stu3ufc wrote:$4 BILLION DOLLARS



MUST BE LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK

I'm sure they are after this deal.

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Re: UFC 198/199 did TERRIBLE

Post by stu3ufc on Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:30 pm

Heretic wrote:I will never understand the dumb luck zuffa has always had especially with TUF

Honestly couldnt see them being this successful if it werent for buying pride fc and strikeforce

just imagine UFC would be made to look like some regional show if strikeforce and pride fc were still going

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Re: UFC 198/199 did TERRIBLE

Post by Kinosis on Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:00 pm

Rizin=PRIDEFC wrote:The best thing is that bad cards (IMHO) do better PPV numbers than good cards. Quality is not appreciated in MMA just put Ronda Rosey vs. Bethe Correia and sell 900k while two legends Shogun and Hendo (UFC 139) will do only 300k

Very true. My fellow Americans make me sick to my stomach everyday with how stupid they are. I think the ufc and it's fans are a pretty good microcosm of the U.S. as a whole. Corrupt and stupid.

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Re: UFC 198/199 did TERRIBLE

Post by InfinityLens on Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:04 pm

Here is a thread from Sherdog discussing UFC's 2015 profits. How are they going to make back the 4.2 bil if this is all the profits they made in their best year with things sliding downhill?

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Re: UFC 198/199 did TERRIBLE

Post by CDF47 on Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:06 pm

^I don't get the deal either.  Not sure of their future plans but it doesn't add up right now.

Missing link from thread.

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Re: UFC 198/199 did TERRIBLE

Post by InfinityLens on Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:10 am

^^^http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/report-ufc-2015-profit-157m.3257631/

They could have bought Bellator for less than a billion than used the remains 3.2 billion+ to poach all of the UFC's talent lol.

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Re: UFC 198/199 did TERRIBLE

Post by stu3ufc on Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:27 am

Kinosis wrote:
Rizin=PRIDEFC wrote:The best thing is that bad cards (IMHO) do better PPV numbers than good cards. Quality is not appreciated in MMA just put Ronda Rosey vs. Bethe Correia and sell 900k while two legends Shogun and Hendo (UFC 139) will do only 300k

Very true.  My fellow Americans make me sick to my stomach everyday with how stupid they are.  I think the ufc and it's fans are a pretty good microcosm of the U.S. as a whole.  Corrupt and stupid.

i think the majority of low brow dog cage fans such as FKA for example are only buying PPV's based on the headline main event

I honestly thought 199/ UFN 90/91 were WAY better than UFC 200 which received all the hype but ended up being a dud

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Post by CDF47 on Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:57 pm

InfinityLens wrote:^^^http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/report-ufc-2015-profit-157m.3257631/

They could have bought Bellator for less than a billion than used the remains 3.2 billion+ to poach all of the UFC's talent lol.

Yeah, I don't get it.  Unreal they made this much money off this deal.

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Post by stu3ufc on Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:34 pm

InfinityLens wrote:^^^http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/report-ufc-2015-profit-157m.3257631/

They could have bought Bellator for less than a billion than used the remains 3.2 billion+ to poach all of the UFC's talent lol.

lmao at Bellator being 1 billion hahahaa

No chance in hell...but I do agree with your point

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Re: UFC 198/199 did TERRIBLE

Post by CODELMJVG on Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:46 am

stu3ufc wrote:
Heretic wrote:I will never understand the dumb luck zuffa has always had especially with TUF

Honestly couldnt see them being this successful if it werent for buying pride fc and strikeforce

just imagine UFC would be made to look like some regional show if strikeforce and pride fc were still going

very strong point and not far fetch.

Did pride bought other promotions or UFC is infamously known for.
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Post by CDF47 on Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:25 pm

Pride never bought out anyone but they worked with some other orgs. bringing in their fighters.

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