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Post by MR.WILLIE on Sat Sep 03, 2016 12:28 am

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Kinosis wrote:I would have liked to of seen Kongo vs Lashley.

Winner of this fight and Lashley/Appelt will most likely determine the bout for the vacant title. Bank on it.

I agree this is so shameful that is expected, the easiest road to a title in history, Christ

Rooting for appelt lol

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Kinosis wrote:I would have liked to of seen Kongo vs Lashley.

Winner of this fight and Lashley/Appelt will most likely determine the bout for the vacant title. Bank on it.

I agree this is so shameful that is expected, the easiest road to a title in history, Christ

Rooting for appelt lol

No, that would be Brock Lesnar who got a UFC title shot by losing to Mir and beating an aging Heath Herring.
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Post by CDF47 on Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:24 pm

Looking forward to these fights tonight. I'd like to see Johnson get the win here and then fight Lashley next for the vacant HW belt.

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Re: Bellator 161: Congo vs. Johnson Jr. - September 16 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by CDF47 on Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:25 pm

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Kongo has that height and reach looking at the stare down but Johnson has the mass.  It's an interesting fight.

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Re: Bellator 161: Congo vs. Johnson Jr. - September 16 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by CDF47 on Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:59 pm

Nice finish win by Warren

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Re: Bellator 161: Congo vs. Johnson Jr. - September 16 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by MR.WILLIE on Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:03 pm

Nice win indeed.....

Main event snooze fest at the moment

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Post by CDF47 on Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:06 pm

MR.WILLIE wrote:Nice win indeed.....

Main event snooze fest at the moment

Yeah, main event started out bad and then Kongo had a nice end of rnd GNP from mount and now Johnson took top position in second

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Re: Bellator 161: Congo vs. Johnson Jr. - September 16 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by CDF47 on Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:07 pm

hooks in Johnson going for finish...nope

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Re: Bellator 161: Congo vs. Johnson Jr. - September 16 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by CDF47 on Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:11 pm

fights even now, 1 round each

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Re: Bellator 161: Congo vs. Johnson Jr. - September 16 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by MR.WILLIE on Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:13 pm

1-1 I agree

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Re: Bellator 161: Congo vs. Johnson Jr. - September 16 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by CDF47 on Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:15 pm

Fight is getting a bit boring again. Johnson is exhausted.

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Re: Bellator 161: Congo vs. Johnson Jr. - September 16 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by CDF47 on Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:18 pm

Kongo has this, 2-1

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Re: Bellator 161: Congo vs. Johnson Jr. - September 16 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by CDF47 on Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:19 pm

Yup, Kongo majority decision

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Re: Bellator 161: Congo vs. Johnson Jr. - September 16 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by MR.WILLIE on Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:21 pm

They need to add talent if they really want to crown a hw champ

http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/25423-chris-lokteff-igor

He holds a win over tony

http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/14896-Andreas-Kraniotakes-Big-Daddy

Top hw in Germany, also trains in Sam Diego

http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/geronimo-dos-santos-mondragon

Hepatitis free

http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/4172-konstantin-gluhov

Exciting hw

http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/kirill-sidelnikov-baby-fedor

Give this guy a multi year deal

http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/33954-ruben-wolf-the-viking

Durable guy

http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/89112-sergey-pavlovich

Great prospect

http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/kenny-garner

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Re: Bellator 161: Congo vs. Johnson Jr. - September 16 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by MR.WILLIE on Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:22 pm

Horrible fight, but the dec. Was the right one

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Re: Bellator 161: Congo vs. Johnson Jr. - September 16 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by CDF47 on Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:31 pm

MR.WILLIE wrote:They need to add talent if they really want to crown a hw champ

http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/25423-chris-lokteff-igor

He holds a win over tony

http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/14896-Andreas-Kraniotakes-Big-Daddy

Top hw in Germany, also trains in Sam Diego

http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/geronimo-dos-santos-mondragon

Hepatitis free

http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/4172-konstantin-gluhov

Exciting hw

http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/kirill-sidelnikov-baby-fedor

Give this guy a multi year deal

http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/33954-ruben-wolf-the-viking

Durable guy

http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/89112-sergey-pavlovich

Great prospect

http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/kenny-garner

Tough as hell











Some good potential fighters they could sign.  I'd like to see them add some talent at HW as well.

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Re: Bellator 161: Congo vs. Johnson Jr. - September 16 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by CDF47 on Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:32 pm

MR.WILLIE wrote:Horrible fight, but the dec. Was the right one

Agreed, it was pretty slow and boring for the most part.

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Re: Bellator 161: Congo vs. Johnson Jr. - September 16 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by iforgotmypassword on Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:13 am

Yankova got beat up by a can. Coker is wasting all this money and promotion on her.

RIZIN's female divisions are so much better. Kanako Murata would smash Yankova.

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Re: Bellator 161: Congo vs. Johnson Jr. - September 16 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by fka on Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:58 pm

Feel bad for johnson his mind was not in this fight and his body showed he hadn't been training well either.

Lackluster fight but it had its moments for each guy.....boy kongo is physically strong.

Yankova couldnt make 125 fight ended up near 135 lol she looked huge.She has alot of potential and has the beauty to market as well but she needs discipline to make weight or she wont get by on half assed performances....that being said i enjoyed the fight.

Rizin definitely has some high level low weight females but the gabi garcia division is an utter waste of time and hard to watch for the most part.

Im not a huge wmma fan but i enjoy some females as they can produce good fights.But Bellator has had issues with nearly every female theyve attempted to push.From marloes to all the uber hot girls with limited experience.

But im not mad at watching models fight.....

Bellator definitely needs some fresh faces in hw to add depth they just signe Shanrock FC hw champ bobby brents he won the contract by defending his belt.

Imho bellator needs to expand its roster but it needs to do so at a slow pace to not over extend.Bellator may have had a record year and is expanding to new international venues but ot needs more proof of sustained growth.They Dont want to get in debt by going crazy......if they do more shows they could house more fighters.

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Post by iforgotmypassword on Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:17 pm

hmm sounds like you're turning on bellator fka.

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Re: Bellator 161: Congo vs. Johnson Jr. - September 16 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by CDF47 on Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:25 pm

fka wrote:Feel bad for johnson his mind was not in this fight and his body showed he hadn't been training well either.

Lackluster fight but it had its moments for each guy.....boy kongo is physically strong.

Yankova couldnt make 125 fight ended up near 135 lol she looked huge.She has alot of potential and has the beauty to market as well but she needs discipline to make weight or she wont get by on half assed performances....that being said i enjoyed the fight.

Rizin definitely has some high level low weight females but the gabi garcia division is an utter waste of time and hard to watch for the most part.

Im not a huge wmma fan but i enjoy some females as they can produce good fights.But Bellator has had issues with nearly every female theyve attempted to push.From marloes to all the uber hot girls with limited experience.

But im not mad at watching models fight.....

Bellator definitely needs some fresh faces in hw to add depth they just signe Shanrock FC hw champ bobby brents he won the contract by defending his belt.

Imho bellator needs to expand its roster but it needs to do so at a slow pace to not over extend.Bellator may have had a record year and is expanding to new international venues but ot needs more proof of sustained growth.They Dont want to get in debt by going crazy......if they do more shows they could house more fighters.

Good breakdown.  Kongo has that size and strength.  

I agree on WMMA and also I think Bellator maybe should just focus more on the men's divisions.

Spot on regarding the HWs and signings in my opinion.

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Post by CDF47 on Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:28 pm

iforgotmypassword wrote:hmm sounds like you're turning on bellator fka.

Never!  LOL... It's a good thing fka is supporting a great org. like Bellator or Stu would never let him live it down. Well, I guess Stu will never let him live it down regardless.

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Re: Bellator 161: Congo vs. Johnson Jr. - September 16 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by fka on Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:45 pm

Yeah im not turning on them in the slightest.

The event was fun...

Djamil chan is a great kickboxer he put on a good fight but campos is just tough and more rounded....great fight.

Yankova isn't a finished product she onky has 4 pro fights and it showed this fight when her hameplan didn't work she couldn't adjust,something she will work on im sure as well as making weight.It was her first fight in America so possibly wasn't used to the travel but she won and was realistic asking for a rematch very big of her.

Joe warren was hungry and fought a great fight breaking kakais nose and just out classing him.Joe is not a guy who shows up every fight hopefully he stays consistent and gets back in title contention.

Johnson vs kongo was a dirty clinch and grappling battle.....johnson came in heavier then usual and it hurt him in round 3.Props for not canceling the fight but it might have been better fir him if he did.Tony had no gas after round 1 it was sad cuz thats not the level he fights at he has great technique and skill none of which was on display.Kongo in his later part of his career is a smart fighter just wish he'd use his kickboxing more......and imagine if in the ufc he used his wrestling more instead of just standup.....kongo is a solid hw fir sure....slow grueling fight but it was ok.


Bellator puts on fun shows i look forward too this one definitely had some great moments and the main was lackluster but still had meaning and decent action not bad for a small show.

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Re: Bellator 161: Congo vs. Johnson Jr. - September 16 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by CDF47 on Sun Sep 18, 2016 12:04 am

fka wrote:Yeah im not turning on them in the slightest.

The event was fun...

Djamil chan is a great kickboxer he put on a good fight but campos is just tough and more rounded....great fight.

Yankova isn't a finished product she onky has 4 pro fights and it showed this fight when her hameplan didn't work she couldn't adjust,something she will work on im sure as well as making weight.It was her first fight in America so possibly wasn't used to the travel but she won and was realistic asking for a rematch very big of her.

Joe warren was hungry and fought a great fight breaking kakais nose and just out classing him.Joe is not a guy who shows up every fight hopefully he stays consistent and gets back in title contention.

Johnson vs kongo was a dirty clinch and grappling battle.....johnson came in heavier then usual and it hurt him in round 3.Props for not canceling the fight but it might have been better fir him if he did.Tony had no gas after round 1 it was sad cuz thats not the level he fights at he has great technique and skill none of which was on display.Kongo in his later part of his career is a smart fighter just wish he'd use his kickboxing more......and imagine if in the ufc he used his wrestling more instead of just standup.....kongo is a solid hw fir sure....slow grueling fight but it was ok.


Bellator puts on fun shows i look forward too this one definitely had some great moments and the main was lackluster but still had meaning and decent action not bad for a small show.

Event overall was solid, you're right. I liked that Warren finish. Mainly it was just the main event that kind of sucked.

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