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Post by Kingfedor on Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:31 pm


Jon Jones has tested positive for Turinabol, an anabolic steroid in his UFC 214 victory over Daniel Cormier, and he has been stripped of his title.

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Post by Kinosis on Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:21 pm

lol, that guy is the biggest screw up of all time. I hope they throw the book at him this time. I'm sure they will just slap his wrist again though.

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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:28 pm

If it's true then I hope he gets a long suspension. Guy is talented but he never learns. Hopefully this will be the wake up call he needs.

Again, I know most fighters are doing something but this stuff will always remind me of the zombies saying PRIDE fighters were overrated cause they weren't tested.
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Post by CDF47 on Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:46 am

Unreal. I thought he learned his lesson. Cormier should get his title back since Jones cheated.

They might actually throw the book at him this time.

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Post by Kinosis on Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:38 am

^I hope so. I'd like to see at least a 4 year suspension. With all the crap he has done over the years he probably deserves a lifetime ban.

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Post by CDF47 on Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:49 pm

Kinosis wrote:^I hope so.  I'd like to see at least a 4 year suspension.  With all the crap he has done over the years he probably deserves a lifetime ban.  

4 years seems about right. UFC would probably hold him in the States too so he couldn't fight in Rizin or M-1.

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Post by nodogoshi on Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:29 pm

It's crazy, a guy with so much ability is so insecure that he feels he must cheat so as to squeeze out every conceivable additional advantage; in the process nullifying his accomplishments, sabotaging/abbreviating his career, and personally costing himself millions of dollars.

The guy is literally a danger to himself.

If only they could stage an intervention, in which he showed up and there were a team of accountants sitting around the table, breaking down all the hard numbers.

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Post by CDF47 on Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:20 pm

nodogoshi wrote:It's crazy, a guy with so much ability is so insecure that he feels he must cheat so as to squeeze out every conceivable additional advantage; in the process nullifying his accomplishments, sabotaging/abbreviating his career, and personally costing himself millions of dollars.

The guy is literally a danger to himself.

If only they could stage an intervention, in which he showed up and there were a team of accountants sitting around the table, breaking down all the hard numbers.

Yeah, no kidding. He went from being a potential future GOAT to this. If he gets 4 years suspension his career is badly damaged. Who knows how this will turn out. Cormier needs his belt back though.

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Post by westcott123 on Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:57 pm

Rocksoldier84 wrote:If it's true then I hope he gets a long suspension. Guy is talented but he never learns. Hopefully this will be the wake up call he needs.

Again, I know most fighters are doing something but this stuff will always remind me of the zombies saying PRIDE fighters were overrated cause they weren't tested.

That is why Fedor is the real goat people are/were now saying that DC is now the lhw goat .
I don't really agree to that why ? Because in my opinion legacy is really at heavy weight yes he bested rumble twice
but in my opinion guys like wand shogun Liddell Ortiz have more of the bigger lhw legacy . Don't get me wrong DC should be in the top ten but I would not put DC as numero uno .
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Post by westcott123 on Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:01 pm

Rocksoldier84 wrote:If it's true then I hope he gets a long suspension. Guy is talented but he never learns. Hopefully this will be the wake up call he needs.

Again, I know most fighters are doing something but this stuff will always remind me of the zombies saying PRIDE fighters were overrated cause they weren't tested.


In reality it shows how overrated the ufc is I mean sure there were fighters juiced to the gills in pride at least it was an even playing field you got to see who really was the best
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Post by westcott123 on Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:59 pm

Still it is kinda of fishy how these drug bust only get released after a fight and not before .
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Post by CDF47 on Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:05 pm

westcott123 wrote:Still it is kinda of fishy how these drug bust only get released after a fight and not before .

Yeah, it's shady.

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Post by nodogoshi on Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:07 pm

westcott123 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:If it's true then I hope he gets a long suspension. Guy is talented but he never learns. Hopefully this will be the wake up call he needs.

Again, I know most fighters are doing something but this stuff will always remind me of the zombies saying PRIDE fighters were overrated cause they weren't tested.

That is why Fedor is the real goat people are/were now saying that DC is now the lhw goat .
I don't really agree to that why ? Because in my opinion legacy is really at heavy weight yes he bested rumble twice
but in my opinion guys like wand shogun Liddell Ortiz have more of the bigger lhw legacy . Don't get me wrong DC should be in the top ten but I would not put DC as numero uno .

Are you kidding? Those guys you named are way greater LHWs/fighters.

Cormier isn't great, either, for the record.

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Post by CDF47 on Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:53 pm

nodogoshi wrote:
westcott123 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:If it's true then I hope he gets a long suspension. Guy is talented but he never learns. Hopefully this will be the wake up call he needs.

Again, I know most fighters are doing something but this stuff will always remind me of the zombies saying PRIDE fighters were overrated cause they weren't tested.

That is why Fedor is the real goat people are/were now saying that DC is now the lhw goat .
I don't really agree to that why ? Because in my opinion legacy is really at heavy weight yes he bested rumble twice
but in my opinion guys like wand shogun Liddell Ortiz have more of the bigger lhw legacy . Don't get me wrong DC should be in the top ten but I would not put DC as numero uno .

Are you kidding? Those guys you named are way greater LHWs/fighters.

Cormier isn't great, either, for the record.

That's a list of legends.

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Post by westcott123 on Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:07 am

CDF47 wrote:
nodogoshi wrote:
westcott123 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:If it's true then I hope he gets a long suspension. Guy is talented but he never learns. Hopefully this will be the wake up call he needs.

Again, I know most fighters are doing something but this stuff will always remind me of the zombies saying PRIDE fighters were overrated cause they weren't tested.

That is why Fedor is the real goat people are/were now saying that DC is now the lhw goat .
I don't really agree to that why ? Because in my opinion legacy is really at heavy weight yes he bested rumble twice
but in my opinion guys like wand shogun Liddell Ortiz have more of the bigger lhw legacy . Don't get me wrong DC should be in the top ten but I would not put DC as numero uno .

Are you kidding? Those guys you named are way greater LHWs/fighters.

Cormier isn't great, either, for the record.

That's a list of legends.  

Which is why I said they have the bigger legacy at lhw compared to DC .DC legacy is really at heavyweight winning the heavy weight grand Prix when it had the best heavyweight rooster .

The light heavyweight goat is shogun rua  why
1 fought nothing but top comp since pretty much day one
2 won belts in the two biggest organization
3 didn't need a huge height reach Weight advantage .


That's my pick for lhw goat .

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/8/29/16218382/ufc-214-daniel-cormier-reaction-jon-jones-drug-test-failure-mma-news

It was some of the comments on here/there whom talked about DC being lhw goat.
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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:37 am

westcott123 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:If it's true then I hope he gets a long suspension. Guy is talented but he never learns. Hopefully this will be the wake up call he needs.

Again, I know most fighters are doing something but this stuff will always remind me of the zombies saying PRIDE fighters were overrated cause they weren't tested.

That is why Fedor is the real goat people are/were now saying that DC is now the lhw goat .
I don't really agree to that why ? Because in my opinion legacy is really at heavy weight yes he bested rumble twice
but in my opinion guys like wand shogun Liddell Ortiz have more of the bigger lhw legacy . Don't get me wrong DC should be in the top ten but I would not put DC as numero uno .

Agree with Cormier. Great fighter but hard to call him the LHW goat when he cuts a lot of weight and comes into fights with a big strength advantage. I do find Liddell and Ortiz were very overrated to a degree. First is the fact they were on top of a weak LHW division. Ortiz got some good wins such as defending against Kondo and Matyushenko but he also made title defenses against Sinosic, an undersized Tanner, and washed up Shamrock. Liddell is probably one of the most protected fighters of all time as he mostly took on grapplers with little to no striking.
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Post by CDF47 on Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:13 pm

westcott123 wrote:
CDF47 wrote:
nodogoshi wrote:
westcott123 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:If it's true then I hope he gets a long suspension. Guy is talented but he never learns. Hopefully this will be the wake up call he needs.

Again, I know most fighters are doing something but this stuff will always remind me of the zombies saying PRIDE fighters were overrated cause they weren't tested.

That is why Fedor is the real goat people are/were now saying that DC is now the lhw goat .
I don't really agree to that why ? Because in my opinion legacy is really at heavy weight yes he bested rumble twice
but in my opinion guys like wand shogun Liddell Ortiz have more of the bigger lhw legacy . Don't get me wrong DC should be in the top ten but I would not put DC as numero uno .

Are you kidding? Those guys you named are way greater LHWs/fighters.

Cormier isn't great, either, for the record.

That's a list of legends.  

Which is why I said they have the bigger legacy at lhw compared to DC .DC legacy is really at heavyweight winning the heavy weight grand Prix when it had the best heavyweight rooster .

The light heavyweight goat is shogun rua  why
1 fought nothing but top comp since pretty much day one
2 won belts in the two biggest organization
3 didn't need a huge height reach Weight advantage .


That's my pick for lhw goat .

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/8/29/16218382/ufc-214-daniel-cormier-reaction-jon-jones-drug-test-failure-mma-news

It was some of the comments on here/there whom talked about DC being lhw goat.

I see. DC is moving his way up but he still has some work to move up among that group.

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Post by CDF47 on Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:15 pm

Rocksoldier84 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:If it's true then I hope he gets a long suspension. Guy is talented but he never learns. Hopefully this will be the wake up call he needs.

Again, I know most fighters are doing something but this stuff will always remind me of the zombies saying PRIDE fighters were overrated cause they weren't tested.

That is why Fedor is the real goat people are/were now saying that DC is now the lhw goat .
I don't really agree to that why ? Because in my opinion legacy is really at heavy weight yes he bested rumble twice
but in my opinion guys like wand shogun Liddell Ortiz have more of the bigger lhw legacy . Don't get me wrong DC should be in the top ten but I would not put DC as numero uno .

Agree with Cormier. Great fighter but hard to call him the LHW goat when he cuts a lot of weight and comes into fights with a big strength advantage. I do find Liddell and Ortiz were very overrated to a degree. First is the fact they were on top of a weak LHW division. Ortiz got some good wins such as defending against Kondo and Matyushenko but he also made title defenses against Sinosic, an undersized Tanner, and washed up Shamrock. Liddell is probably one of the most protected fighters of all time as he mostly took on grapplers with little to no striking.

The Wand fight really solidified Liddell. One of my favorite fights in MMA.

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Post by westcott123 on Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:22 pm

Rocksoldier84 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:If it's true then I hope he gets a long suspension. Guy is talented but he never learns. Hopefully this will be the wake up call he needs.

Again, I know most fighters are doing something but this stuff will always remind me of the zombies saying PRIDE fighters were overrated cause they weren't tested.

That is why Fedor is the real goat people are/were now saying that DC is now the lhw goat .
I don't really agree to that why ? Because in my opinion legacy is really at heavy weight yes he bested rumble twice
but in my opinion guys like wand shogun Liddell Ortiz have more of the bigger lhw legacy . Don't get me wrong DC should be in the top ten but I would not put DC as numero uno .

Agree with Cormier. Great fighter but hard to call him the LHW goat when he cuts a lot of weight and comes into fights with a big strength advantage. I do find Liddell and Ortiz were very overrated to a degree. First is the fact they were on top of a weak LHW division. Ortiz got some good wins such as defending against Kondo and Matyushenko but he also made title defenses against Sinosic, an undersized Tanner, and washed up Shamrock. Liddell is probably one of the most protected fighters of all time as he mostly took on grapplers with little to no striking.

Which is why shogun is my pick sure he didn't defend the belt or actually won the pride title compare his work to the others and you can see why .

Tito fought undersized opponents as soon as he fought some one he didn't have a size advantage or couldn't take down he lost .

Chuck fought mostly wrestlers/bjj fighters the ufc way of making him look like the best striker in mma as soon as he did fight another striker he either lost or had a tough time to win.

Wanderlei is a bit of a mixed bag yes he beaten a lot of great fighters and there were times he was David against Goliath there were times he fought guys who didn't belong in the ring with him and he was the Goliath to some David's
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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:41 pm

CDF47 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:If it's true then I hope he gets a long suspension. Guy is talented but he never learns. Hopefully this will be the wake up call he needs.

Again, I know most fighters are doing something but this stuff will always remind me of the zombies saying PRIDE fighters were overrated cause they weren't tested.

That is why Fedor is the real goat people are/were now saying that DC is now the lhw goat .
I don't really agree to that why ? Because in my opinion legacy is really at heavy weight yes he bested rumble twice
but in my opinion guys like wand shogun Liddell Ortiz have more of the bigger lhw legacy . Don't get me wrong DC should be in the top ten but I would not put DC as numero uno .

Agree with Cormier. Great fighter but hard to call him the LHW goat when he cuts a lot of weight and comes into fights with a big strength advantage. I do find Liddell and Ortiz were very overrated to a degree. First is the fact they were on top of a weak LHW division. Ortiz got some good wins such as defending against Kondo and Matyushenko but he also made title defenses against Sinosic, an undersized Tanner, and washed up Shamrock. Liddell is probably one of the most protected fighters of all time as he mostly took on grapplers with little to no striking.

The Wand fight really solidified Liddell.  One of my favorite fights in MMA.

The fight was great but it was another case of Liddell struggling or not able to put away another striker. Remember, Wanderlei was coming off two straight knockout losses to Cro Cop and Hendo.
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Post by CDF47 on Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:55 pm

Rocksoldier84 wrote:
CDF47 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:If it's true then I hope he gets a long suspension. Guy is talented but he never learns. Hopefully this will be the wake up call he needs.

Again, I know most fighters are doing something but this stuff will always remind me of the zombies saying PRIDE fighters were overrated cause they weren't tested.

That is why Fedor is the real goat people are/were now saying that DC is now the lhw goat .
I don't really agree to that why ? Because in my opinion legacy is really at heavy weight yes he bested rumble twice
but in my opinion guys like wand shogun Liddell Ortiz have more of the bigger lhw legacy . Don't get me wrong DC should be in the top ten but I would not put DC as numero uno .

Agree with Cormier. Great fighter but hard to call him the LHW goat when he cuts a lot of weight and comes into fights with a big strength advantage. I do find Liddell and Ortiz were very overrated to a degree. First is the fact they were on top of a weak LHW division. Ortiz got some good wins such as defending against Kondo and Matyushenko but he also made title defenses against Sinosic, an undersized Tanner, and washed up Shamrock. Liddell is probably one of the most protected fighters of all time as he mostly took on grapplers with little to no striking.

The Wand fight really solidified Liddell.  One of my favorite fights in MMA.

The fight was great but it was another case of Liddell struggling or not able to put away another striker. Remember, Wanderlei was coming off two straight knockout losses to Cro Cop and Hendo.

Yeah, I remember all those fights.  It was a great time for MMA back then; golden age of the sport, until UFC bought PRIDE.

The Wand vs. Chuck fight should have happened a bit earlier when they were both on a huge run but I was glad to see it finally happen and it turned out great but just no finish.

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Post by nodogoshi on Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:32 pm

westcott123 wrote:
CDF47 wrote:
nodogoshi wrote:
westcott123 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:If it's true then I hope he gets a long suspension. Guy is talented but he never learns. Hopefully this will be the wake up call he needs.

Again, I know most fighters are doing something but this stuff will always remind me of the zombies saying PRIDE fighters were overrated cause they weren't tested.

That is why Fedor is the real goat people are/were now saying that DC is now the lhw goat .
I don't really agree to that why ? Because in my opinion legacy is really at heavy weight yes he bested rumble twice
but in my opinion guys like wand shogun Liddell Ortiz have more of the bigger lhw legacy . Don't get me wrong DC should be in the top ten but I would not put DC as numero uno .

Are you kidding? Those guys you named are way greater LHWs/fighters.

Cormier isn't great, either, for the record.

That's a list of legends.  

Which is why I said they have the bigger legacy at lhw compared to DC .DC legacy is really at heavyweight winning the heavy weight grand Prix when it had the best heavyweight rooster .

The light heavyweight goat is shogun rua  why
1 fought nothing but top comp since pretty much day one
2 won belts in the two biggest organization
3 didn't need a huge height reach Weight advantage .


That's my pick for lhw goat .

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/8/29/16218382/ufc-214-daniel-cormier-reaction-jon-jones-drug-test-failure-mma-news

It was some of the comments on here/there whom talked about DC being lhw goat.

Sorry to Cormier, but for my two sence "Cormier" and "Great" do not belong in the same sentence.

Now, if it's in the category of "athlete period", he could have an argument, because he was a very accomplished wrestler, capped off by making two Olympic teams, who crossed over successfully to MMA.

Be that as it me, he has done nothing as a fighter to be "great".


Also, I didn't notice Ortiz' name in the original list.

I don't rate Ortiz very high.

If he had any chance to be great though, it was eliminated by Frank Shamrock.

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CDF47 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:If it's true then I hope he gets a long suspension. Guy is talented but he never learns. Hopefully this will be the wake up call he needs.

Again, I know most fighters are doing something but this stuff will always remind me of the zombies saying PRIDE fighters were overrated cause they weren't tested.

That is why Fedor is the real goat people are/were now saying that DC is now the lhw goat .
I don't really agree to that why ? Because in my opinion legacy is really at heavy weight yes he bested rumble twice
but in my opinion guys like wand shogun Liddell Ortiz have more of the bigger lhw legacy . Don't get me wrong DC should be in the top ten but I would not put DC as numero uno .

Agree with Cormier. Great fighter but hard to call him the LHW goat when he cuts a lot of weight and comes into fights with a big strength advantage. I do find Liddell and Ortiz were very overrated to a degree. First is the fact they were on top of a weak LHW division. Ortiz got some good wins such as defending against Kondo and Matyushenko but he also made title defenses against Sinosic, an undersized Tanner, and washed up Shamrock. Liddell is probably one of the most protected fighters of all time as he mostly took on grapplers with little to no striking.

The Wand fight really solidified Liddell.  One of my favorite fights in MMA.

Funny you say that, as I never rated that win much at all.

Liddel had a lot more left in the tank than Wanderlei at the time of the fight.

Besides that, everything else conceivable was probably pretty much in Liddell's favor as well, given he was the company boy, and Wanderlei was being brought in to lose.

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Re: Jon Jones Tests Positive for Steroids Stripped Of UFC Title

Post by CDF47 on Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:23 pm

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Rocksoldier84 wrote:If it's true then I hope he gets a long suspension. Guy is talented but he never learns. Hopefully this will be the wake up call he needs.

Again, I know most fighters are doing something but this stuff will always remind me of the zombies saying PRIDE fighters were overrated cause they weren't tested.

That is why Fedor is the real goat people are/were now saying that DC is now the lhw goat .
I don't really agree to that why ? Because in my opinion legacy is really at heavy weight yes he bested rumble twice
but in my opinion guys like wand shogun Liddell Ortiz have more of the bigger lhw legacy . Don't get me wrong DC should be in the top ten but I would not put DC as numero uno .

Agree with Cormier. Great fighter but hard to call him the LHW goat when he cuts a lot of weight and comes into fights with a big strength advantage. I do find Liddell and Ortiz were very overrated to a degree. First is the fact they were on top of a weak LHW division. Ortiz got some good wins such as defending against Kondo and Matyushenko but he also made title defenses against Sinosic, an undersized Tanner, and washed up Shamrock. Liddell is probably one of the most protected fighters of all time as he mostly took on grapplers with little to no striking.

The Wand fight really solidified Liddell.  One of my favorite fights in MMA.

Funny you say that, as I never rated that win much at all.

Liddel had a lot more left in the tank than Wanderlei at the time of the fight.

Besides that, everything else conceivable was probably pretty much in Liddell's favor as well, given he was the company boy, and Wanderlei was being brought in to lose.

I just waited 6 years to see that fight happen and when it finally happened it was unreal for me. That's why it is one of my favorite fights.

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Re: Jon Jones Tests Positive for Steroids Stripped Of UFC Title

Post by westcott123 on Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:39 am

nodogoshi wrote:
CDF47 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:If it's true then I hope he gets a long suspension. Guy is talented but he never learns. Hopefully this will be the wake up call he needs.

Again, I know most fighters are doing something but this stuff will always remind me of the zombies saying PRIDE fighters were overrated cause they weren't tested.

That is why Fedor is the real goat people are/were now saying that DC is now the lhw goat .
I don't really agree to that why ? Because in my opinion legacy is really at heavy weight yes he bested rumble twice
but in my opinion guys like wand shogun Liddell Ortiz have more of the bigger lhw legacy . Don't get me wrong DC should be in the top ten but I would not put DC as numero uno .

Agree with Cormier. Great fighter but hard to call him the LHW goat when he cuts a lot of weight and comes into fights with a big strength advantage. I do find Liddell and Ortiz were very overrated to a degree. First is the fact they were on top of a weak LHW division. Ortiz got some good wins such as defending against Kondo and Matyushenko but he also made title defenses against Sinosic, an undersized Tanner, and washed up Shamrock. Liddell is probably one of the most protected fighters of all time as he mostly took on grapplers with little to no striking.

The Wand fight really solidified Liddell.  One of my favorite fights in MMA.

Funny you say that, as I never rated that win much at all.

Liddel had a lot more left in the tank than Wanderlei at the time of the fight.

Besides that, everything else conceivable was probably pretty much in Liddell's favor as well, given he was the company boy, and Wanderlei was being brought in to lose.

Not to mention he wanderlei being viscously knocked out by cro cop and  Henderson for me the axe murderer ended when mirko kicked him in the head he was not the same after that's
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