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Post by nodogoshi on Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:36 am

I'm sort of a douche for underrating Cormier so much, however dirty piss or not he won't get out of Jone's shadow.

I was just being in the tradition of this site's founding, on the anti-Zuffa sentiments.

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Post by westcott123 on Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:57 am

¥^ true it is like I said he cormier his real legacy is at heavyweight At light heavyweight his the bride maid to Jon Jones PEDS or not until he beats Jones he will always be .
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Post by CDF47 on Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:37 pm

I agree, Cormier is in Jones shadow at 205. He should consider going back to HW.

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Post by westcott123 on Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:00 pm

Jon Jones should go up to heavy weight too I mean the guy is bigger than Fedor and Alec's if a person was to break down what guy would beat Jones it would be
1 some one almost matches him in height and length
2 is very well rounded and unpredictable
3 has an iron chin
4 has knock out power
5 has a huge gas tank

Of course I most likely be wrong if you were going to pick a person it would be some one like that .
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Post by CDF47 on Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:42 pm

westcott123 wrote:Jon Jones should go up to heavy weight too I mean the guy is bigger than Fedor and Alec's if a person was to break down what guy would beat Jones it would be
1 some one  almost matches him in height and length
2 is very well rounded and unpredictable
3 has an iron chin
4 has knock out power
5 has a huge gas tank

Of course I most likely be wrong if you were going to pick a person it would be some one like that .

If he didn't get busted for roids he was possibly going to fight Stipe for the HW belt on December 12th.

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Post by westcott123 on Mon Sep 04, 2017 5:30 pm

This has nothing to do with the topic is that even though the ufc is currently the biggest mma organization on earth it has the most casual fan base and that if that casual fan base left they would loose the top spot .

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Post by westcott123 on Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:53 pm

http://www.news.com.au/sport/ufc/ufc-superstar-jon-jones-confirmed-positive-test-for-steroids/news-story/c5b5ce3614dfb424ea1dfeac5509d869

He failed the B sample well at the end of the day he choose this path I say the DC fight would get overturned to a no contest. Still I love it rubs salt in the wounds of ufc zombies who talk/ed shit about pride while seemingly ignoring the juiced up monsters that fought in the ufc.
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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:30 am

westcott123 wrote:http://www.news.com.au/sport/ufc/ufc-superstar-jon-jones-confirmed-positive-test-for-steroids/news-story/c5b5ce3614dfb424ea1dfeac5509d869

He failed the B sample well at the end of the day he choose this path I say the DC fight would get overturned to a no contest. Still I love it rubs salt in the wounds of ufc zombies who talk/ed shit about pride while seemingly ignoring the juiced up monsters that fought in the ufc.

Oh trust me, they were talking about it on facebook on Sherdog's page.

I do agree. It's so great when you hear for years about zombies accusing PRIDE fighters of juicing and yet UFC guys have done it too including champions and two guys the zombies put on pedestals as the greatest of all time. Hell, their president and commentator do HGH.
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westcott123 wrote:This has nothing to do with the topic is that even though the ufc is currently the biggest mma organization on earth it has the most casual fan base and that if that casual fan base left they would loose the top spot .


Not only that but the reason they got there besides the name was the fact that they've fooled the casuals into believing the best fighters in the world compete there. As we've been seeing, companies like Bellator and Rizin have snatched many of UFC's best so it's getting to the point where they'll lose so many elite names that they won't be able to say they have the best in the world and what do you think the casuals will do? Not only that, casuals at times are fans of fads and the MMA fad has ended so they'll be the first to bail.
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Post by westcott123 on Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:03 am

^^true with the ufc the only thing they have to draw people to them is drama think about it when was the last time they sold a bout without any drama or ef you thrown in there ?

About the whole casual the ones who really annoy me are the so called "experts" the ones who think they're a know it all don't know half what they're saying most of the time they're wrong .

I would like to see in the future bellator ruling the Americas ksw ruling Europe Rizin ruling Asia .
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Post by westcott123 on Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:31 am

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westcott123 wrote:This has nothing to do with the topic is that even though the ufc is currently the biggest mma organization on earth it has the most casual fan base and that if that casual fan base left they would loose the top spot .


Not only that but the reason they got there besides the name was the fact that they've fooled the casuals into believing the best fighters in the world compete there. As we've been seeing, companies like Bellator and Rizin have snatched many of UFC's best so it's getting to the point where they'll lose so many elite names that they won't be able to say they have the best in the world and what do you think the casuals will do? Not only that, casuals at times are fans of fads and the MMA fad has ended so they'll be the first to bail.

Trouble is that they're even bigger douches then the tapout and tug guys of the 2000s I mean they talk horrible shit about fighters in the ufc I mean they call a certain guy whom is one defence of breaking the record a can crusher and scarred of moving up even though he is 14-2 in that division .
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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:45 am

westcott123 wrote:^^true with the ufc the only thing they have to draw people to them is drama think about it when was the last time they sold a bout without any drama or ef you thrown in there ?

About the whole casual the ones who really annoy me are the so called "experts" the ones who think they're a know it all don't know half what they're saying most of the time they're wrong .

I would like to see in the future bellator ruling the Americas ksw ruling Europe Rizin ruling Asia .

Yup and the best example is Kevin Lee. I'm not saying he's a bad fighter but what has he done to earn an interim title shot besides talk a lot? As for the drama, that could also be because UFC can't figure out any other way to sell their fighters. UFC has clearly gone the professional wrestling route where it's not only drama but looks which is why Paige VanZant and Sage Northcutt get hyped while they had no problem letting Gegard Mousasi leave.

I think that could happen sooner than later. The Evil Empire is clearly falling apart and I don't see any rebuilding anytime soon. Look at their calendar: besides Bisping/GSP in November, what else do they got? Nothing. Meanwhile, the Ferrtitas are officially out, Dana White has been exposed as not being the genius promoter the zombies made him out to be, WME doesn't know what they're doing, no new stars are coming, many top fighters have and continue to leave, and the UFC now has backstage politics that would make boxing look squeaky clean.

Look at the divisions. None of the Women's Division have depth in them while Amanda Nunes has become hated in recent months with fans turning on her while Cyborg could already be on her way out making the Women's Featherweight Championship the biggest clusterfuck in the history of MMA titles. The Flyweight Title scene is dull as Johnson has no rival and the recent mess with Borg. The Bantamweight Title scene has seen Garbrandt out for most of the year. The Featherweight Title scene has been hurt with McGregor's shenanigans as the two recent champions in Aldo and Hollaway have problems being taken seriously as they've already lost to him. Speaking of McGregor, he's now been lightweight champ ten months, has made no title defenses, and won't fight for the rest of the year. Woodley is coming off a worst fight of the year candidate and has been talking about money fights. Michael Bisping has been doing nothing but money fights. Jon Jones has flunked another drug test. Stipe Miocic is in a contract dispute. The UFC is a mess.
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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:48 am

westcott123 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:This has nothing to do with the topic is that even though the ufc is currently the biggest mma organization on earth it has the most casual fan base and that if that casual fan base left they would loose the top spot .


Not only that but the reason they got there besides the name was the fact that they've fooled the casuals into believing the best fighters in the world compete there. As we've been seeing, companies like Bellator and Rizin have snatched many of UFC's best so it's getting to the point where they'll lose so many elite names that they won't be able to say they have the best in the world and what do you think the casuals will do? Not only that, casuals at times are fans of fads and the MMA fad has ended so they'll be the first to bail.

Trouble is that they're even bigger douches then the tapout and tug guys of the 2000s I mean they talk horrible shit about fighters in the ufc I mean they call a certain guy whom is one defence of breaking the record a can crusher and scarred of moving up even though he is 14-2 in that division .

Sadly, they say that about everybody. I feel bad for Johnson because he was right as Dillashaw was trying to talk his way into a title shot that he had no right to get. Casual UFC fans have always been depicted as trash and they have no loyalty.
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Post by westcott123 on Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:04 am

^^ if that bout happened this would be the result after TJ wins dj a can crusher easy fights scared of real competition sounds familiar. DJ wins tj was never that good anyway and a repeat of what I said before
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Post by CDF47 on Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:56 pm

NC is the right call after failing both tests. Unreal.

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Post by nodogoshi on Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:35 pm

I personally think the UFC is still gradually becoming more entrenched in the mainstream, and in ways it's a good development.

It seems preferable to have the UFC owned by a company as opposed to by billionaire casino magnates.

What's needed is continuing legal scrutiny of the way contracts are put together, at an industry-level.

International competition among orgs should foster markets in fighter pay, but there are many bases for manipulation; perfect competition is merely a thing for textbook writers, and in a tightnit industry like fight promotion (or showbiz, for that matter) it's pretty much a pipe dream.

That said fighters can still find opportunities. Hell, look at McGregor.

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Post by westcott123 on Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:56 am

Rocksoldier84 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:^^true with the ufc the only thing they have to draw people to them is drama think about it when was the last time they sold a bout without any drama or ef you thrown in there ?

About the whole casual the ones who really annoy me are the so called "experts" the ones who think they're a know it all don't know half what they're saying most of the time they're wrong .

I would like to see in the future bellator ruling the Americas ksw ruling Europe Rizin ruling Asia .

Yup and the best example is Kevin Lee. I'm not saying he's a bad fighter but what has he done to earn an interim title shot besides talk a lot? As for the drama, that could also be because UFC can't figure out any other way to sell their fighters. UFC has clearly gone the professional wrestling route where it's not only drama but looks which is why Paige VanZant and Sage Northcutt get hyped while they had no problem letting Gegard Mousasi leave.

I think that could happen sooner than later. The Evil Empire is clearly falling apart and I don't see any rebuilding anytime soon. Look at their calendar: besides Bisping/GSP in November, what else do they got? Nothing. Meanwhile, the Ferrtitas are officially out, Dana White has been exposed as not being the genius promoter the zombies made him out to be, WME doesn't know what they're doing, no new stars are coming, many top fighters have and continue to leave, and the UFC now has backstage politics that would make boxing look squeaky clean.

Look at the divisions. None of the Women's Division have depth in them while Amanda Nunes has become hated in recent months with fans turning on her while Cyborg could already be on her way out making the Women's Featherweight Championship the biggest clusterfuck in the history of MMA titles. The Flyweight Title scene is dull as Johnson has no rival and the recent mess with Borg. The Bantamweight Title scene has seen Garbrandt out for most of the year. The Featherweight Title scene has been hurt with McGregor's shenanigans as the two recent champions in Aldo and Hollaway have problems being taken seriously as they've already lost to him. Speaking of McGregor, he's now been lightweight champ ten months, has made no title defenses, and won't fight for the rest of the year. Woodley is coming off a worst fight of the year candidate and has been talking about money fights. Michael Bisping has been doing nothing but money fights. Jon Jones has flunked another drug test. Stipe Miocic is in a contract dispute.  The UFC is a mess.

At the end of the day it is good news for us that seems to be were it is going it has to be taken down a peg or two .If the ufc does go the way of Rome I say bellator would take over as top dog as I said in the above post with Rizin in Asia and ksw in Europe. You know the champs top 5 fight in a tournament every year 1 year under pride rules next under unified rules .That is what I would like to see
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Post by CDF47 on Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:35 pm

westcott123 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:^^true with the ufc the only thing they have to draw people to them is drama think about it when was the last time they sold a bout without any drama or ef you thrown in there ?

About the whole casual the ones who really annoy me are the so called "experts" the ones who think they're a know it all don't know half what they're saying most of the time they're wrong .

I would like to see in the future bellator ruling the Americas ksw ruling Europe Rizin ruling Asia .

Yup and the best example is Kevin Lee. I'm not saying he's a bad fighter but what has he done to earn an interim title shot besides talk a lot? As for the drama, that could also be because UFC can't figure out any other way to sell their fighters. UFC has clearly gone the professional wrestling route where it's not only drama but looks which is why Paige VanZant and Sage Northcutt get hyped while they had no problem letting Gegard Mousasi leave.

I think that could happen sooner than later. The Evil Empire is clearly falling apart and I don't see any rebuilding anytime soon. Look at their calendar: besides Bisping/GSP in November, what else do they got? Nothing. Meanwhile, the Ferrtitas are officially out, Dana White has been exposed as not being the genius promoter the zombies made him out to be, WME doesn't know what they're doing, no new stars are coming, many top fighters have and continue to leave, and the UFC now has backstage politics that would make boxing look squeaky clean.

Look at the divisions. None of the Women's Division have depth in them while Amanda Nunes has become hated in recent months with fans turning on her while Cyborg could already be on her way out making the Women's Featherweight Championship the biggest clusterfuck in the history of MMA titles. The Flyweight Title scene is dull as Johnson has no rival and the recent mess with Borg. The Bantamweight Title scene has seen Garbrandt out for most of the year. The Featherweight Title scene has been hurt with McGregor's shenanigans as the two recent champions in Aldo and Hollaway have problems being taken seriously as they've already lost to him. Speaking of McGregor, he's now been lightweight champ ten months, has made no title defenses, and won't fight for the rest of the year. Woodley is coming off a worst fight of the year candidate and has been talking about money fights. Michael Bisping has been doing nothing but money fights. Jon Jones has flunked another drug test. Stipe Miocic is in a contract dispute.  The UFC is a mess.

At the end of the day it is good news for us  that seems to be were it is going it has to be taken down  a peg or two .If the ufc does go the way of Rome I say bellator would take over as top dog as I said in the above post with Rizin in Asia and ksw in Europe. You know the champs top 5 fight in a tournament every  year 1 year under pride rules next under unified rules .That is what I would like to see

Would love to see that.

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Post by westcott123 on Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:05 pm

With the high possibility of Jones being suspended for four years on face book some were in Asia or Europe I will say two things one don't you love it how they just assume that fighter's in another org/country are automatic juice heads 2 he signed for one of these organization rizin for example and received a Fedor vs nogueria type beat down.
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westcott123 wrote:With the high possibility of Jones being suspended for four years on face book some were in Asia or Europe I will say two things one don't you love it how they just assume that fighter's in another org/country are automatic juice heads 2 he signed for one of these organization rizin for example and received a Fedor vs nogueria type beat down.

I'd pay $100 PPV to see that in Rizin.

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Post by Kinosis on Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:43 pm

I hope Jones gets the book thrown at him this time. I want 4 years. The guy has been busted of so much stuff and isn't this the third time he was stripped of the title? I'd make an example of him.

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Kinosis wrote:I hope Jones gets the book thrown at him this time.  I want 4 years.  The guy has been busted of so much stuff and isn't this the third time he was stripped of the title?  I'd make an example of him.

I think he will be getting the 4 year suspension this time.

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