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Post by cboone on Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:46 am

How is it possible to not have Josh Barnett listed as the #1 Heavyweight on this list?

He is far above and beyond anyone else on that list in terms of ability and accomplishments.
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Post by KSW on Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:37 am

cboone wrote:How is it possible to not have Josh Barnett listed as the #1 Heavyweight on this list?

He is far above and beyond anyone else on that list in terms of ability and accomplishments.
Barnett will be #1 when it´s 100% sure he doesn´t sign with the UFC.
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Post by CDF47 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:58 pm

PRIDE FC wrote:Many people think Fitch should be higher but he needs to prove it. Just because he fought in the UFC doesn´t mean he´s better than the fighters on the G-MMA Rankings. He won 1 fight since 2010 against a non ranked fighter and hasn´t finished a fight since 2007.

Yeah. The burkman fight coming up will answer some of these questions. I'm not much of a Fitch fan due to the style but I think a spot at 4 is fair and burkman fight will decide which direction he heads.

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Re: GLOBAL-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - April 2013

Post by MR.WILLIE on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:04 pm

PRIDE NEVER DIE wrote:
MR.WILLIE wrote:cd.....i forgot elvis mutapcic 12-2 mfc mw champ....

he just sign with wsof.....keep an eye on this kid, he is a beast
will he still compete in mfc or is he strictly wsof now?


5 fight deal with wsof....no more mfc for him

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Post by CDF47 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:05 pm

AudaxSmoke wrote:Any word on what weight Rumble Jonson will be fighting at next? If he wins another at HW I think he deserves to be ranked in that weight class. I generally don't like weight jumpers but to almost KO his first bigger opponent in ranked Arlovski was pretty solid.

PRIDE NEVER DIE wrote:I still say all zuffa refuges need a fight before entering rankings.

They could maybe be allowed in Other Contenders at best until their first global fight.

Rumble wants to fight at 205 so I think he will be back there hopefully at wsof 4. Based on his interviews it sounds like that will be his home so I left him out of hw but if that changes he will be ranked at he.

I agree that win over as was huge. It was a great win.

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Re: GLOBAL-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - April 2013

Post by CDF47 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:08 pm

nodogoshi wrote:These rankings look outstanding. I don't think I can find a single thing to disagree with Very Happy

It will be interesting to see where Anthony Johnson eventually lands.

Thanks nodo. I'm looking forward to his next fight as well hopefully at wsof 4 at 205. Sucks his hand is broke because that will delay it but hopefully not past wsof 4.

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Re: GLOBAL-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - April 2013

Post by CDF47 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:11 pm

PRIDE FC wrote:Jadamba Narantungalag could be in the LW top 10 instead of Mckee

Yup jadamba will be top 10 for sure if he wins his title defense coming up on the next legend card.

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Post by CDF47 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:13 pm

MR.WILLIE wrote:cd.....i forgot elvis mutapcic 12-2 mfc mw champ....

he just sign with wsof.....keep an eye on this kid, he is a beast

Nice... I've seen all his NFC fights and he does look good. That's a good signing for wsof.

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Re: GLOBAL-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - April 2013

Post by CDF47 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:14 pm

Junkyard Log wrote:
MR.WILLIE wrote:cd.....i forgot elvis mutapcic 12-2 mfc mw champ....

he just sign with wsof.....keep an eye on this kid, he is a beast

He is a beast!

and great job on the rankings CD.

Thank you sir

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Re: GLOBAL-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - April 2013

Post by MR.WILLIE on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:16 pm

CDF47 wrote:
MR.WILLIE wrote:cd.....i forgot elvis mutapcic 12-2 mfc mw champ....

he just sign with wsof.....keep an eye on this kid, he is a beast

Nice... I've seen all his NFC fights and he does look good. That's a good signing for wsof.


yes he is a monster i expect him at wsof4.....maybe vs thales leites....wow....

great job with the rankings my friend as always!!!

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Post by CDF47 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:19 pm

cboone wrote:How is it possible to not have Josh Barnett listed as the #1 Heavyweight on this list?

He is far above and beyond anyone else on that list in terms of ability and accomplishments.

If Barnett signs to an outside UFC org he will be number 1 for sure. Just waiting on negotiations to end before listing him since he could still sign back zuffa. Don't want to jump the gun. If he were cut by zuffa I would have listed him but that's not the case and negotiations could go anywhere. Same with rampage but zuffa also has a matching clause with him.

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Re: GLOBAL-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - April 2013

Post by CDF47 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:23 pm

PRIDE FC wrote:
cboone wrote:How is it possible to not have Josh Barnett listed as the #1 Heavyweight on this list?

He is far above and beyond anyone else on that list in terms of ability and accomplishments.
Barnett will be #1 when it´s 100% sure he doesn´t sign with the UFC.

Just saw u already responded. Still getting use to posting from phone. Takes me awhile & I pass by posts

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Re: GLOBAL-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - April 2013

Post by CDF47 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:25 pm

MR.WILLIE wrote:
PRIDE NEVER DIE wrote:
MR.WILLIE wrote:cd.....i forgot elvis mutapcic 12-2 mfc mw champ....

he just sign with wsof.....keep an eye on this kid, he is a beast
will he still compete in mfc or is he strictly wsof now?


5 fight deal with wsof....no more mfc for him

When did they sign him? I'd like to see him against Thales leites at 185

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Post by CDF47 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:28 pm

MR.WILLIE wrote:
CDF47 wrote:
MR.WILLIE wrote:cd.....i forgot elvis mutapcic 12-2 mfc mw champ....

he just sign with wsof.....keep an eye on this kid, he is a beast

Nice... I've seen all his NFC fights and he does look good. That's a good signing for wsof.


yes he is a monster i expect him at wsof4.....maybe vs thales leites....wow....

great job with the rankings my friend as always!!!

Thales leites is the fight to make. That's the one I call for in the post above before reading this.

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Re: GLOBAL-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - April 2013

Post by MR.WILLIE on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:42 pm

CDF47 wrote:
MR.WILLIE wrote:
PRIDE NEVER DIE wrote:
MR.WILLIE wrote:cd.....i forgot elvis mutapcic 12-2 mfc mw champ....

he just sign with wsof.....keep an eye on this kid, he is a beast
will he still compete in mfc or is he strictly wsof now?


5 fight deal with wsof....no more mfc for him

When did they sign him? I'd like to see him against Thales leites at 185

last night.....reported today by sefo, now mmajunkie.com has an article about it....


http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/04/mfc-middleweight-champ-elvis-mutapcic-signs-with-world-series-of-fighting

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Post by CDF47 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:31 pm

MR.WILLIE wrote:
CDF47 wrote:
MR.WILLIE wrote:
PRIDE NEVER DIE wrote:
MR.WILLIE wrote:cd.....i forgot elvis mutapcic 12-2 mfc mw champ....

he just sign with wsof.....keep an eye on this kid, he is a beast
will he still compete in mfc or is he strictly wsof now?


5 fight deal with wsof....no more mfc for him

When did they sign him? I'd like to see him against Thales leites at 185

last night.....reported today by sefo, now mmajunkie.com has an article about it....


http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/04/mfc-middleweight-champ-elvis-mutapcic-signs-with-world-series-of-fighting

Cool. You & zk are often my first source of mma news...especially outside UFC.

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Re: GLOBAL-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - April 2013

Post by Audax on Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:47 pm

You gotta get Sergei off there man.
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Post by CDF47 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:02 pm

AudaxSmoke wrote:You gotta get Sergei off there man.

Yeah he will be getting passed up this month based on m-1 gp. Volkov will pass him up as well after his next fight. Possibly others as well soon. Sucks that he hardly has been fighting mma. I'm a Sergei fan but he has been given long enough to hold that top spot.

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Re: GLOBAL-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - April 2013

Post by cboone on Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:16 pm

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cboone wrote:How is it possible to not have Josh Barnett listed as the #1 Heavyweight on this list?

He is far above and beyond anyone else on that list in terms of ability and accomplishments.
Barnett will be #1 when it´s 100% sure he doesn´t sign with the UFC.

Just saw u already responded. Still getting use to posting from phone. Takes me awhile & I pass by posts

By that reasoning, any "Free Agent" should not be listed. UFC could call them back at any time as a last minute replacement. I would think Barnett is also a Free Agent until he is not.
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Post by CDF47 on Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:12 pm

cboone wrote:
CDF47 wrote:
PRIDE FC wrote:
cboone wrote:How is it possible to not have Josh Barnett listed as the #1 Heavyweight on this list?

He is far above and beyond anyone else on that list in terms of ability and accomplishments.
Barnett will be #1 when it´s 100% sure he doesn´t sign with the UFC.

Just saw u already responded. Still getting use to posting from phone. Takes me awhile & I pass by posts

By that reasoning, any "Free Agent" should not be listed. UFC could call them back at any time as a last minute replacement. I would think Barnett is also a Free Agent until he is not.

It is different when someone is released from contract by the UFC versus being in a negotiation phase. Some of these fighters have matching clauses in their contracts as well, like Rampage. When a fighter is released from contract there is only a very small chance they will return where as in negotiations the chances are much higher for a return, especially when there are matching clauses.

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Re: GLOBAL-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - April 2013

Post by KSW on Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:43 pm

Where do you rank Gluhov, Garner and Ka now? Ka fought Monson to a draw last year and was the first man to finish Kudin in 20 fights.
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Post by CDF47 on Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:10 pm

PRIDE FC wrote:Where do you rank Gluhov, Garner and Ka now? Ka fought Monson to a draw last year and was the first man to finish Kudin in 20 fights.

I got Gluhov top 3 just over Garner due to that win. Garner is ranked 4. Winner of the GP will be top 2 or 3.

I don't have Ka ranked yet but he was impressive. I would have to drop Minakov to get Ka in there. Ka fights the winner of Monson/Malikov so if he gets a win there he will be top 6 or 7.

I had to drop Razmadze for Gluhov to keep Minakov in there. Raz hasn't fought forever and he is still a free agent so he deserved to drop.

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Post by KSW on Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:23 pm

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PRIDE FC wrote:Where do you rank Gluhov, Garner and Ka now? Ka fought Monson to a draw last year and was the first man to finish Kudin in 20 fights.

I got Gluhov top 3 just over Garner due to that win. Garner is ranked 4. Winner of the GP will be top 2 or 3.

I don't have Ka ranked yet but he was impressive. I would have to drop Minakov to get Ka in there. Ka fights the winner of Monson/Malikov so if he gets a win there he will be top 6 or 7.

I had to drop Razmadze for Gluhov to keep Minakov in there. Raz hasn't fought forever and he is still a free agent so he deserved to drop.
Raz is a super HW so its not a big loss, actually it´s a big loss but you know what I mean Razz
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Post by KSW on Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:30 pm

You say winner of the GP will be 2 or 3, does that mean Volkov will be #1?
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Post by wekka on Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:34 pm

I'm going to guess it'll depend on what Barnett decides to do.
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