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Post by CDF47 on Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:25 pm

Heavyweight
1.  Alexander Volkov (Bellator Champion)
2.  Konstantin Gluhov (M-1 Global)
3.  Sergei Kharitonov (DREAM)
4.  Kenny Garner (M-1 Global Champion)
5.  Damian Grabowski (M-1 Global)
6.  Magomed Malikov (M-1 Global)
7.  Jeff Monson (M-1 Global)
8.  Richard Hale (Bellator)
9.  Thiago Santos (Bellator)
10. Andrei Arlovski (WSOF)

Other Contenders: Aleksander Emelianenko (ProFC), Mike Russow (Free Agent), Chaban Ka (M-1 Global), Vitaly Minakov (Bellator), Satoshi Ishii (IGF)


Light Heavyweight
1.  Emanuel Newton (Bellator)  
2.  Jan Blachowicz (KSW Champion)
3.  Muhammed “King Mo” Lawal (Bellator)
4.  Attila Vegh (Bellator Champion)
5.  Yoshiyuki Nakanishi (DEEP Champion)
6.  Anthony Johnson (WSOF)
7.  Mikhail Zayats (Bellator)
8.  Christian M’Pumbu (Bellator)
9.  Vladimir Matyushenko (Bellator)
10. Renato Sobral (Bellator)

Other Contenders: Raphael Davis (Bellator), Moise Rimbon (Instinct MMA), Robert Drysdale (Legacy FC), Viktor Nemkov (M-1 Global), Max Nunes (BAMMA)


Middleweight
1.  Alexander Shlemenko (Bellator Champion)
2.  Mamed Khalidov (KSW)
3.  Michal Materla (KSW Champion)
4.  Ramazan Emeev (M-1 Global Champion)
5.  Maiquel Falcao (Bellator)
6.  Vyacheslav Vasilevsky (M-1 Global)
7.  Arthur Guseinov (M-1 Global)
8.  Doug Marshall (Bellator)
9.  Mario Miranda (M-1 Global)
10. Bruno Santos (Bellator)

Other Contenders: Vitor Vianna (Bellator), Brett Cooper (Bellator), Dan Cramer (Bellator), Eun Soo Lee (ROAD FC Champion), Kazuhiro Nakamura (DEEP Champion)


Welterweight
1.  Ben Askren (Bellator Champion)
2.  Rashid Magomedov (M-1 Global Champion)
3.  Douglas Lima (Bellator)
4.  Jon Fitch (WSOF)
5.  Yasubey Enomoto (M-1 Global)
6.  Paul Daley (Bellator)
7.  Shamil Zavurov (Bellator)
8.  Takenori Sato (Pancrase Champion)
9.  Keita “K-Taro” Nakamura (Legend FC)
10. Akihiro Murayama (Pancrase)

Other Contenders: Andrey Koreshkov (Bellator), Karl Amoussou (Bellator), Aslambek Saidov (KSW Champion), Josh Burkman (WSOF), Jay Hieron (Free Agent)


Lightweight
1.  Michael Chandler (Bellator Champion)
2.  Eddie Alvarez (Bellator)
3.  Shinya Aoki (ONE FC Champion)
4.  Musa Khamanaev (M-1 Global Champion)  
5.  Rick Hawn (Bellator)
6.  Daniel Weichel (M-1 Global)
7.  Kotetsu Boku (ONE FC)
8.  Antonio McKee (DREAM)
9.  Naoyuki Kotani (ZST Champion)
10. David Rickels (Bellator)

Other Contenders: Saad Awad (Bellator), Will Brooks (Bellator), Dave Jansen (Bellator), Justin Gaethje (WSOF), Yui Chul Nam (ROAD FC Champion)


Featherweight
1.  Pat Curran (Bellator Champion)
2.  Georgi Karakhanyan (DREAM)
3.  Hiroyuki Takaya (DREAM)
4.  Tatsuya Kawajiri (DREAM)
5.  Patricio Freire (Bellator)
6.  Diego Nunes (Free Agent)
7.  Daniel Straus (Bellator)
8.  Kazunori Yokota (DEEP Champion)
9.  Magomedrasul Khasbulaev (Bellator)
10. Koji Oishi (ONE FC Champion)

Other Contenders: Marlon Sandro (Bellator), Marat Gafurov (M-1 Global Champion), Kazuyuki Miyata (DEEP), Honorio Banario (ONE FC), Shahbulat Shamhalaev (Bellator)


Bantamweight
1.  Bibiano Fernandes (ONE FC)
2.  Marlon Moraes (WSOF)
3.  Eduardo Dantas (Bellator Champion)
4.  Soo Chul Kim (ONE FC Champion)
5.  Masakatsu Ueda (ONE FC)
6.  Joe Warren (Bellator)  
7.  Tyson Nam (WSOF)
8.  Marcos Galvao (Bellator)
9.  Anthony Leone (Bellator)
10. Kevin Belingon (ONE FC)

Other Contenders: Luis Alberto Nogueira (Bellator), Miguel Torres (WSOF), Leandro Issa (ONE FC), Ed West (Bellator), Shintaro Ishiwatari (Pancrase Champion)


Flyweight
1. Darrell Montague (Free Agent)
2. Mamoru Yamaguchi (Shooto)
3. Will Campuzano (Legacy FC Champion)
4. Joshua Sampo (CFA Champion)
5. Shinichi "BJ" Kojima (ONE FC)
6. Ryuichi Miki (Shooto)
7. Haruo Ochi (Shooto)
8. Kiyotaka Shimizu (Pancrase Champion)
9. Yasuhiro Urushitani (ONE FC)
10. Jose Maria Tome (Shooto Brazil)

Other Contenders: Alexandre Pantoja (Shooto Brazil), Ali Bagautinov (Fight Nights), Dileno Lopes (CEF), Yuki Motoya (DEEP Champion), Alexis Vila (CFA)


Junior Flyweight
1. Mikihito Yamagami (Shooto Champion)
2. Mitsuhisa Sunabe (Pancrase Champion)
3. Junji Ito (Shooto)
4. Yuki Shojo (Shooto)
5. Rambaa Somdet (PXC)
6. Tadaaki Yamamoto (Shooto)
7. Noboru Tahara (Pancrase)
8. Hiroyuki Abe (Pancrase)
9. Jun Nakamura (Shooto)
10. Shinya Murofushi (Shooto)

Other Contenders: Ryosuke Tanuma (ZST Champion), Masayoshi Kato (Shooto), Akihito Sasao (Shooto), Nobita Naito (Shooto), Takehiro Ishii (Pancrase)

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GLOBAL-MMA Ranking Update Summary (June 2013)

Sergey Kornev: M-1 Global light heavyweight champion, Sergey Kornev, retired from MMA as reported 05 May 2013.  Max Nunes re-entered the light heavyweight rankings following the removal of Kornev.

Thales Leites: Due to inactivity and the fact entrance into the upcoming WSOF middleweight grand prix championship tournament was declined, middleweight contender Thales Leites fell three spots in the rankings.  Leites now holds the last spot in the middleweight contenders list.  As of 10 May 2013, Thales Leites has not fought in over 13 months and he declined a spot in a tournament which could have earned him the WSOF middleweight crown as reported on GLOBAL-MMA.com.

Paul Daley: Paul Daley earned his third straight victory putting Rodrigo “Ximbica” Ribeiro to sleep with vicious ground and pound strikes at Dubai FC 4 on 10 May 2013.  Daley remains ranked at number 6 in the GLOBAL-MMA welterweight rankings.

Takenori Sato: Pancrase welterweight champion, Takenori Sato, successfully defended his title against Shingo Suzuki at Pancrase – 247 on 19 May 2013.  Sato finished Suzuki with a keylock submission in 2 minutes 36 seconds of the third round.  Sato moved up one spot to number 8 in the GLOBAL-MMA welterweight rankings following the submission victory.

Shamil Abdurahimov: Shamil Abdurahimov fell two spots in the heavyweight contenders list due to inactivity.  Abdurahimov is hanging on by a thread and needs a big win soon to maintain his final spot in the heavyweight contenders list.

Vyacheslav Vasilevsky: Vyacheslav Vasilevsky earned a decision victory over Charles Andrade at M-1 Challenge 39.  The victory did not change Slava’s middleweight ranking position.

Damian Grabowski: The Polish Pitbull Damian Grabowski was successful in his M-1 Global debut as he defeated Tadas Rimkevicius with strikes in the second round at M-1 Challenge 39.  The victory solidified Grabowski’s spot in the top 5 of the GLOBAL-MMA heavyweight rankings.

Thales Leites: Thales Leites signed with the UFC as reported on 24 May 2013 and was removed from the GLOBAL-MMA middleweight rankings.  DEEP middleweight champion Kazuhiro Nakamura took Leites’ last spot in the middleweight contenders list.

Aleksander Emelianenko: Aleksander Emelianenko made his return to MMA finishing a turtling Bob Sapp with punches in the first round at Legend on 25 May 2013.  The victory did not affect Emelianenko’s ranking status.

Satoshi Ishii: Satoshi Ishii entered the GLOBAL-MMA heavyweight rankings by earning a unanimous decision victory over Pedro Rizzo at IGF – Genome 26 on 26 May 2013.  The victory marks the fourth straight for Ishii including wins over Tim Sylvia and Sean McCorkle.  Shamil Abdurahimov was dropped from the rankings following the entrance of Ishii.

Masakatsu Ueda: Masakatsu Ueda won the ONE FC bantamweight grand prix tournament by earning a unanimous decision victory over Kevin Belingon at ONE FC 9 – Rise to Power on 31 May 2013. Ueda remained ranked at number 5 in the bantamweight rankings and Belingon maintained his 10th place spot due to the close decision.

Bibiano Fernandes: Bantamweight king pin, Bibiano Fernandes, earned the ONE FC interim bantamweight title by defeating Koetsu Okazaki by unanimous decision at ONE FC 9.  Fernandes maintained his first place spot in the rankings with the decision win.

Koji Oishi: Long time Pancrase star Koji Oishi earned the ONE FC featherweight title by knocking out Honorio Banario at ONE FC 9.  Oishi gained the 10th place spot in the GLOBAL-MMA featherweight rankings with the victory while Banario fell to the contenders list.  DEEP featherweight Doo Ho Choi fell from the rankings following the entrance of Oishi.


* A number of other top ranked fighters won fights against fighters ranked lower than them which did not alter their ranking status.  

** Ranked Fighters Removed from All Previous Rankings Dating Back to February 2012:

Heavyweight: Tony Lopez, Blagoi Ivanov, Fedor Emelianenko (Retired), Cole Konrad (Retired), Brett Rogers, Eric Prindle, Todd Duffee (UFC), Alexei Kudin, Soa Palelei (UFC), Rolles Gracie, Levan Razmadze, Guram Gugenishvili, Shamil Abdurahimov

Light Heavyweight: Glover Texeira (UFC), D.J. Linderman, Marcus Vanttinen, Gegard Mousasi (Strikeforce), Jimi Manuwa (UFC), Vinny Magalhaes (UFC), Roger Hollett (UFC), Richard Hale (Division Change), Mark Godbeer, Maxim Grishin, Travis Wiuff (Division Change), Tomasz Narkun, Sergey Kornev (Retired)

Middleweight: Nate Marquardt (Strikeforce), Giva Santana, Bryan Baker, Hector Lombard (UFC), Andrei Semenov, Jorge Santiago (Strikeforce), Anthony Johnson (Division Change), Ryuta Sakurai, Magomed Sultanakhmedov (Retired), Antonio Neto (UFC), Thales Leites (UFC)

Welterweight: Ben Saunders, Gael Grimaud, Bryan Baker, Yuya Shirai, Marius Zaromskis, Alexander Yakovlev, Lyman Good, Myung Ho Bae, Fabricio Monteiro

Lightweight: Franciso Trinaldo (UFC), Ricardo Tirloni, Koji Oishi, Mizuto Hirota (Strikeforce), Mairbek Taisumov, Isao Kobayashi, Zorobabel Moreira, Alexander Sarnavskiy, Rich Clementi, Patricky Freire, Katsunori Kikuno, Marcin Held, Satoru Kitaoka, Paul Sass, Lloyd Woodard

Featherweight: Ronnie Mann, Mike Corey, Wilson Reis, Joachim Hansen, Mike Richman, Yusuke Kawanago, Takeshi Inoue, Joe Warren (Division Change), Wagnney Fabiano, Doo Ho Choi

Bantamweight: Hiroshi Nakamura, Masakazu Imanari, Hideo Tokoro, Yusup Saadulaev, Antonio Banuelos, Wagnney Fabiano (Division Change), Alexis Vila, Rodolfo Marques Diniz, Travis Marx, Zach Makovsky (Division Change)

Flyweight: Taiyo Nakahara, Kentaro Watanabe, Rey Docyogen, Yuki Yasunaga

Junior Flyweight: Junji Ikoma

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GLOBAL-MMA Ranking Rules

*This ranking system includes fighters that are not under exclusive contract to the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC).

*Top level fighters that leave the UFC may be ranked in subsequent rankings.

*Fighters that sign exclusively to the UFC will be removed from the rankings.

*Rankings are based on a fighter's overall career results and recent performance.

*A fighter will be ranked number one if he defeats the number one ranked fighter in the weight division except under certain rare circumstances where the number two ranked fighter clearly deserves to move into the number one ranking position.  

*Victories over highly ranked fighters and losses against non-ranked opponents have a larger effect on the fighters ranking position.

*A fighter will not necessarily take the place of his opponent in the rankings after a victory or a loss.

* A fighter can move up a maximum of three spots with impressive victories over a fighter ranked below him; however, there is no limit if the fighter earned a title or a tournament championship with the victory.

* An unranked newly crowned champion who earned a title in a major league MMA promotion can enter the top ten even with a victory over an unranked fighter.

*A fighter will drop in the rankings if he does not fight regularly against high level competition.

*A top ten ranked fighter can become ranked in another weight division after one or more wins in his new weight class.

*A fighter can be ranked in two different weight divisions.

*Champions and fighters from prominent promotions will have an advantage over champions and fighters from promotions with lesser competition.

*A fighter will be removed from the rankings if he does not fight for two years.

*Fighters that are signed to multiple promotions will have their promotions listed based on the following criteria: 1) championship held in a promotion, 2) predominant promotion the fighter fights in, 3) promotion
last fought in.

*Rankings will be updated every month.


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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - June 2013

Post by CDF47 on Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:36 pm

Below are stats that show the number of fighters per promotion that are ranked in the GLOBAL-MMA top 10.

GLOBAL-MMA Top 10 Rankings Promotional Statistics:

1. Bellator - 30 Fighters Ranked in the Top 10
2. M-1 Global - 13
3. ONE FC - 9
4. Shooto - 9
5. Pancrase - 6
6. DREAM - 5
7. WSOF - 5
8. KSW - 3
9. DEEP - 2
10. Free Agents - 2
11. Legend FC - 1
12. ZST - 1
13. Shooto Brazil - 1
14. PXC - 1
15. CFA - 1
16. Legacy FC - 1

So for the 90 fighters listed, 15 promotions (plus 2 free agents) have fighters ranked in the GLOBAL-MMA top 10.

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - June 2013

Post by Audax on Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:40 pm

Kharitonov needs to consistently drop each month please. I'm really tired of him even being ranked at all seeing as it's now been a year since he's even competed in MMA. I truly think it takes legitimacy away from our rankings.


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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - June 2013

Post by CDF47 on Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:42 pm

AudaxSmoke wrote:Kharitonov needs to consistently drop each month please. I'm really tired of him even being ranked at all seeing as it's now been a year since he's even competed in MMA. I truly think it take legitimacy away from our rankings.

Yeah, that sounds right. I'll keep dropping him. There are a couple others that need to stop dropping soon as well for inactivity.

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - June 2013

Post by wekka on Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:03 pm

I think Kharitonov below Monson would be reasonable.
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Post by CDF47 on Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:05 pm

wekka wrote:I think Kharitonov below Monson would be reasonable.

Yeah, that's where I'll place him. I just dropped several others for next month as well since they haven't fought for over 14 months.

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - June 2013

Post by wekka on Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:08 pm

I'm also thinking you might need to change the inactivity rule from two to one year.
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Post by CDF47 on Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:18 pm

wekka wrote:I'm also thinking you might need to change the inactivity rule from two to one year.

I could state after one year of inactivity a fighter will begin dropping in the rankings, which I have been doing at about 12 - 14 months of inactivity and will be removed after 2 years. I have it as removal after two years in case a top fighter has an injury and returns in 15 months or something along these lines which is common. That is also why I didn't add a drop rule after 12 months, in case someone returns in 13 or 14 months. I will give it a bit more thought if something should be re-written.

I agree that for the most part, after about a year or so (unless there is an injury) fighters should start falling in the ranks when inactive.

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - June 2013

Post by nodogoshi on Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:31 pm

2 years is a really long time to be inactive. Not only that, if a fighter is gone for 2 years, you don't even know how he is going to come back.

I really think 1 year of inactivity is reasonable, 15 months tops. That's just me though.

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - June 2013

Post by KSW on Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:23 am

P4P best rankings
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Post by MR.WILLIE on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:46 am

cd...great job my friend...

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - June 2013

Post by MR.WILLIE on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:51 am

here are my suggestions respectfully...


-hw's- konstantin gluhov is way to high...its not even close, the guy is 2-3 in his last 5, wins vs valentijn(30-29 record) and a split dec win(wich i dont agree) win vs deuce does not make him #2 in the world, i think this is horrible to be honest....

in the other hand were is peter graham????? he is not even in the contenders and has 2 wins vs the #2 guy...wow, he has won 7 in a row

and finally take sergei off the rankings he has no intentions to fight mma

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - June 2013

Post by MR.WILLIE on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:56 am

in lhw....

babalu and matyushenko i think neither should be there to be honest...

also nakanishi over rumble???? anthony would demolish this kid!!!!


at mw.....cd....were is elvis mutapcic????????? were is jt money taylor?????

mutapcic imo is top 3...do you really think neither of this guys: 7. Arthur 7.Guseinov (M-1 Global)
8. Doug Marshall (Bellator)
9. Mario Miranda (M-1 Global)
10. Bruno Santos (Bellator)

can beat elvis??? imo no way, not even emeev or falcao

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Post by MR.WILLIE on Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:03 am

at ww josh burkman has to be ranked, he has big wins over simpson and harris recently....and tyson steele and steve carl can be in the contenders!

lw....why antonio mckee is still ranked??? justin gaethje should be there...


cd you are the best at this, im just giving my points across....some of the ranked guys have been there without fighting and some of the titles have 2 much weight on the rankings, i agree with most of the rankings but the worst imo is gluhov #2 thats not possible and elvis mutapcic not ranked i really dont get it!!!!keep doing your job this are my humble oppinions to improve a little!!!

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - June 2013

Post by CDF47 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:52 am

nodogoshi wrote:2 years is a really long time to be inactive. Not only that, if a fighter is gone for 2 years, you don't even know how he is going to come back.

I really think 1 year of inactivity is reasonable, 15 months tops. That's just me though.

I know 2 years is quite a bit but I just don't want to have a rule that removes fighters entirely from the rankings that are at the top (or top 5 or so) just due to injury. Say a fighter hasn't fought in 8 or 9 months but has a fight scheduled and is injured in training camp and then does not return until after 18 months or so. That fighter should not be removed IMO. That is why I set a 2 year removal rule and these things do happen in MMA. If a fighter is not fighting, like Sergei, Davis,..., and their are no reported injuries, I will begin dropping them after about 12 - 14 months of inactivity like I have been.

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - June 2013

Post by CDF47 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:53 am

PRIDE FC wrote:P4P best rankings

A lot is put into them and they are continuously reviewed and scrutinized by the hardest core MMA fans on the planet.

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - June 2013

Post by CDF47 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:54 am

MR.WILLIE wrote:cd...great job my friend...

Thanks Willie. Always appreciate your input on these.

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Post by CDF47 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:03 am

MR.WILLIE wrote:here are my suggestions respectfully...


-hw's- konstantin gluhov is way to high...its not even close, the guy is 2-3 in his last 5, wins vs valentijn(30-29 record) and a split dec win(wich i dont agree) win vs deuce does not make him #2 in the world, i think this is horrible to be honest....

in the other hand were is peter graham????? he is not even in the contenders and has 2 wins vs the #2 guy...wow, he has won 7 in a row

and finally take sergei off the rankings he has no intentions to fight mma

Gluhov got that spot because he basically took Garner's place after defeating him. As the M-1 HW GP continues, whoever beats Gluhov will take this spot (or he will hold it if he wins) and the winner of the M-1 HW GP will be top 2 as deserved for going through this tournament.

Did Peter Graham win his fight yesterday? I've been holding off on him for that fight but I haven't found the results for that yet.

I was planning on adding Graham or Rolles Gracie if he wins his fight at WSOF next month. I added Ishii cause he is coming off wins over Sylvia and Rizzo and Shamil really needed to go. If Gracie or Graham have impressive wins one of them can bump him out.

Sergei will be dropping 4 spots next month and probably another 4 spots the following month and will continue to drop until he either gets a fight lined up or until he is off the list entirely. Sucks that such a great HW fighter won't get a fight lined up with ONE FC, WSOF, Bellator, M-1, KSW,... I am sure he is in high demand for any of these orgs.

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Post by MR.WILLIE on Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:09 am

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MR.WILLIE wrote:here are my suggestions respectfully...


-hw's- konstantin gluhov is way to high...its not even close, the guy is 2-3 in his last 5, wins vs valentijn(30-29 record) and a split dec win(wich i dont agree) win vs deuce does not make him #2 in the world, i think this is horrible to be honest....

in the other hand were is peter graham????? he is not even in the contenders and has 2 wins vs the #2 guy...wow, he has won 7 in a row

and finally take sergei off the rankings he has no intentions to fight mma

Gluhov got that spot because he basically took Garner's place after defeating him. As the M-1 HW GP continues, whoever beats Gluhov will take this spot (or he will hold it if he wins) and the winner of the M-1 HW GP will be top 2 as deserved for going through this tournament.

Did Peter Graham win his fight yesterday? I've been holding off on him for that fight but I haven't found the results for that yet.

I was planning on adding Graham or Rolles Gracie if he wins his fight at WSOF next month. I added Ishii cause he is coming off wins over Sylvia and Rizzo and Shamil really needed to go. If Gracie or Graham have impressive wins one of them can bump him out.

Sergei will be dropping 4 spots next month and probably another 4 spots the following month and will continue to drop until he either gets a fight lined up or until he is off the list entirely. Sucks that such a great HW fighter won't get a fight lined up with ONE FC, WSOF, Bellator, M-1, KSW,... I am sure he is in high demand for any of these orgs.

yep graham won....i agree that peter and rolles(if he beats huckaba) should be there....shamil isnt active enough as you said and sergei, man this guy does not want to fight mma...he has been offered fights but he is comitted to kickboxing, ive heard a rumor that wsof offered him a contract, that he ask for time to think it over and that he needed more time to accept it!!! that the company called him again and offer him a main event fight vs cheick kongo and that they havent heard of him is a while!!!! dont know whats happening but sergei vs kongo!!!! wow

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Post by CDF47 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:33 am

MR.WILLIE wrote:in lhw....

babalu and matyushenko i think neither should be there to be honest...

also nakanishi over rumble???? anthony would demolish this kid!!!!


at mw.....cd....were is elvis mutapcic????????? were is jt money taylor?????

mutapcic imo is top 3...do you really think neither of this guys: 7. Arthur 7.Guseinov (M-1 Global)
8. Doug Marshall (Bellator)
9. Mario Miranda (M-1 Global)
10. Bruno Santos (Bellator)

can beat elvis??? imo no way, not even emeev or falcao

Babalu will be falling to contenders next month.

Vlad will fall to 10. Vlad recently signed to Bellator so it will be interesting to see how he does in an upcoming LHW GP.

Rumble will be taking the leap to number 2 if he beats Jan at WSOF LHW GP (and possibly number 1). If he fights someone other than Jan, he will still be passing up Nakanishi if he gets a win. Nakanishi also has a fight coming up this month but he will not be moving up with a win. He will be fighting Serbian Aleksandar Radosavlijevic (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Aleksandar-Radosavljevic-31123) at WFC 18 in two weeks.

Regarding Mutapcic and Taylor, just waiting for their next fights at WSOF and CWFC, depending on who they fight and if they win. Santos and Vianna have not fought in over a year and will begin to fall in the contenders list next month. They could soon be replaced by Mutapcic and Taylor if either of them win their next fight or if Santos and Vianna don't line up a fight by the end of July. I'm sure Elvis would do good against a number of those guys but the rankings are mainly based on wins & losses and titles and tournaments won. Elvis will be added soon to the rankings and if he gets the WSOF belt, he will be in the top 10 as well.

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - June 2013

Post by CDF47 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:47 am

MR.WILLIE wrote:at ww josh burkman has to be ranked, he has big wins over simpson and harris recently....and tyson steele and steve carl can be in the contenders!

lw....why antonio mckee is still ranked??? justin gaethje should be there...


cd you are the best at this, im just giving my points across....some of the ranked guys have been there without fighting and some of the titles have 2 much weight on the rankings, i agree with most of the rankings but the worst imo is gluhov #2 thats not possible and elvis mutapcic not ranked i really dont get it!!!!keep doing your job this are my humble oppinions to improve a little!!!

Burkman will be top 5 next month if he defeats Jon Fitch in just over a week from now.

The Tyson Steele/Steve Carl winner will replace Hieron next month.

Brian Cobb would be another huge win for Gaethje. Really looking forward to this fight. If he looks like he did against JZ, Cobb could be in some serious trouble. Cobb is tough as hell though so this should be a great fight. This is one of the fights I'm looking forward to most this month. If Cobb wins he will be making his entrance into the rankings.

McKee fought 5 months ago and I did drop him a bit after he lost that one. Just can't justify dropping him since he has been active and his overall career record is still very impressive. A loss to top 3 Aoki can't hurt him too much because almost everyone loses to Aoki.

I always appreciate your input Willie. I always take your comments into account and make the revisions within the rules we setup here for the ranking system. Thanks for all the input. Please keep it coming.

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - June 2013

Post by CDF47 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:49 am

MR.WILLIE wrote:
CDF47 wrote:
MR.WILLIE wrote:here are my suggestions respectfully...


-hw's- konstantin gluhov is way to high...its not even close, the guy is 2-3 in his last 5, wins vs valentijn(30-29 record) and a split dec win(wich i dont agree) win vs deuce does not make him #2 in the world, i think this is horrible to be honest....

in the other hand were is peter graham????? he is not even in the contenders and has 2 wins vs the #2 guy...wow, he has won 7 in a row

and finally take sergei off the rankings he has no intentions to fight mma

Gluhov got that spot because he basically took Garner's place after defeating him. As the M-1 HW GP continues, whoever beats Gluhov will take this spot (or he will hold it if he wins) and the winner of the M-1 HW GP will be top 2 as deserved for going through this tournament.

Did Peter Graham win his fight yesterday? I've been holding off on him for that fight but I haven't found the results for that yet.

I was planning on adding Graham or Rolles Gracie if he wins his fight at WSOF next month. I added Ishii cause he is coming off wins over Sylvia and Rizzo and Shamil really needed to go. If Gracie or Graham have impressive wins one of them can bump him out.

Sergei will be dropping 4 spots next month and probably another 4 spots the following month and will continue to drop until he either gets a fight lined up or until he is off the list entirely. Sucks that such a great HW fighter won't get a fight lined up with ONE FC, WSOF, Bellator, M-1, KSW,... I am sure he is in high demand for any of these orgs.

yep graham won....i agree that peter and rolles(if he beats huckaba) should be there....shamil isnt active enough as you said and sergei, man this guy does not want to fight mma...he has been offered fights but he is comitted to kickboxing, ive heard a rumor that wsof offered him a contract, that he ask for time to think it over and that he needed more time to accept it!!! that the company called him again and offer him a main event fight vs cheick kongo and that they havent heard of him is a while!!!! dont know whats happening but sergei vs kongo!!!! wow

Nice to hear Graham won the fight. Wish there was a video somewhere to see this. Yeah, Shamil had to drop. He was not fighting anyone and has been on there since the beginning without doing much.

Holy shit, Sergei/Kongo would be unreal. Sergei needs to pick up the damn phone and make that shit happen.

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - June 2013

Post by CDF47 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:48 pm

wekka, someone else to consider in the future at FLW is Alptekin Ozkilic. I just watched his fight against Antonio Banuelos from Legacy on Friday and he looked impressive (as short as the fight was). He's a wrestler with some serious KO power. He took out a previous ranked BW in Banuelos in just 30 seconds and he's now 8-1.

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Alptekin-Ozkilic-73826

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - June 2013

Post by nodogoshi on Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:54 pm

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nodogoshi wrote:2 years is a really long time to be inactive. Not only that, if a fighter is gone for 2 years, you don't even know how he is going to come back.

I really think 1 year of inactivity is reasonable, 15 months tops. That's just me though.

I know 2 years is quite a bit but I just don't want to have a rule that removes fighters entirely from the rankings that are at the top (or top 5 or so) just due to injury. Say a fighter hasn't fought in 8 or 9 months but has a fight scheduled and is injured in training camp and then does not return until after 18 months or so. That fighter should not be removed IMO. That is why I set a 2 year removal rule and these things do happen in MMA. If a fighter is not fighting, like Sergei, Davis,..., and their are no reported injuries, I will begin dropping them after about 12 - 14 months of inactivity like I have been.

I just don't see how that is fair to other fighters to keep guys on the list for so long, whatever the caveats. Also as I said, 2 years is an eternity away, to the extent that you have no idea how a guy will come back. In such a situation, a guy probably needs a fight back to prove himself before being put back on the list. This is much more so the case in the instance of an injury. Not only may there be debilitating effects of the injury, presumably the guy has been out of training for a long time, gone through a lengthy rehab, possibly gotten out of physical shape. I just can't see any logic in that.

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - June 2013

Post by CDF47 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:06 pm

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CDF47 wrote:
nodogoshi wrote:2 years is a really long time to be inactive. Not only that, if a fighter is gone for 2 years, you don't even know how he is going to come back.

I really think 1 year of inactivity is reasonable, 15 months tops. That's just me though.

I know 2 years is quite a bit but I just don't want to have a rule that removes fighters entirely from the rankings that are at the top (or top 5 or so) just due to injury. Say a fighter hasn't fought in 8 or 9 months but has a fight scheduled and is injured in training camp and then does not return until after 18 months or so. That fighter should not be removed IMO. That is why I set a 2 year removal rule and these things do happen in MMA. If a fighter is not fighting, like Sergei, Davis,..., and their are no reported injuries, I will begin dropping them after about 12 - 14 months of inactivity like I have been.

I just don't see how that is fair to other fighters to keep guys on the list for so long, whatever the caveats. Also as I said, 2 years is an eternity away, to the extent that you have no idea how a guy will come back. In such a situation, a guy probably needs a fight back to prove himself before being put back on the list. This is much more so the case in the instance of an injury. Not only may there be debilitating effects of the injury, presumably the guy has been out of training for a long time, gone through a lengthy rehab, possibly gotten out of physical shape. I just can't see any logic in that.

GSP is a great example of why the 2 year length is on there. He def. deserved to keep his title and top spot in the UFC rankings despite being out for 19 months. He came back strong as ever. Cruz is another example and there are others throughout MMA history. A 1 year duration is often not enough to allow fighters to come back from injury especially if injury occurs in training when the fighter is preparing for a fight and already hasn't fought for 4 - 8 months.

Also, if someone receives a 1 year suspension for marijuana use after a fight and does not have another fight for 16 months, I don't think they should be completely removed from the rankings. They should probably get passed up a bit or drop some but not be entirely removed, especially if they are in the top 7 or so.

The guys that just aren't active for 12 - 14 months or so, will be dropping down 2 - 4 spots at a time so I am taking this into account. If they were injured though and planning their return, I would not have dropped them at all.

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