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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by MR.WILLIE on Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:17 pm

cd....justin gaethje 10-0 after his demolish of lauzon, this guy should be rank soon!!!! imo


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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by MR.WILLIE on Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:08 am

carl big win over burkman, moraes continues to dominate and fitch back on track

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by CDF47 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:29 am

MR.WILLIE wrote:cd....justin gaethje 10-0 after his demolish of lauzon, this guy should be rank soon!!!! imo
Damn was he impressive. Top 10 for sure. He should be fighting for the WSOF LW belt in his next fight.

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by CDF47 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:31 am

MR.WILLIE wrote:carl big win over burkman, moraes continues to dominate and fitch back on track
Huge win for Carl to take the belt.  

Moraes is looking unreal.  Would love to see him fight Bibi.

Carl/Fitch title fight coming up.

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by CDF47 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:03 pm

A lot of changes in the rankings this weekend with Fight Nights, WSOF, and Bellator. There's been a lot of movement throughout the month.

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by Hamilcar on Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:43 pm

Will the women's divisions be ranked too sometime?

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by Dagwood on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:12 pm

Hamilcar wrote:Will the women's divisions be ranked too sometime?  
Hmmm??? A volunteer. Very Happy 

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by CDF47 on Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:08 pm

Hamilcar wrote:Will the women's divisions be ranked too sometime?  
Adding all the women's divisions is a lot to maintain. Maybe in the future. wekka started to make them but would be a lot to keep up on.

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by Hamilcar on Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:21 pm

CDF47 wrote:
Hamilcar wrote:Will the women's divisions be ranked too sometime?  
Adding all the women's divisions is a lot to maintain.  Maybe in the future.  wekka started to make them but would be a lot to keep up on.
I wouldn't mind helping out a bit. I feel like if anything it would be easier to keep up on than the men's simply because the women only get a fight or two per card in most orgs. The only women's org that I am familiar with (I know Jewels is out there but I have never watched them) is Invicta, so we already have them as the high profile org with arguably the best fighters. So we can start the rankings with their champions as the tentative #1s unless proven otherwise.

So as of now we would have:

Featherweight
#1 Cris Cyborg
#2 Marlos Coenen

Bantamweight
I don't know what to do with because of how the division is shared with the UFC now. If we are going to shun the UFC fighters then this would be a chance for some other orgs to rank their women.

Flyweight
#1 Barb Honchak

Strawweight
#1 Carla Esparza

Atomweight
#1 Michelle Waterson

I was going to list the Bellator women as well, but I cannot find a roster of them on their website.
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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by Dagwood on Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:39 pm

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CDF47 wrote:
Hamilcar wrote:Will the women's divisions be ranked too sometime?  
Adding all the women's divisions is a lot to maintain.  Maybe in the future.  wekka started to make them but would be a lot to keep up on.
I wouldn't mind helping out a bit.  I feel like if anything it would be easier to keep up on than the men's simply because the women only get a fight or two per card in most orgs.  The only women's org that I am familiar with (I know Jewels is out there but I have never watched them) is Invicta, so we already have them as the high profile org with arguably the best fighters.  So we can start the rankings with their champions as the tentative #1s unless proven otherwise.  

So as of now we would have:

Featherweight
#1 Cris Cyborg
#2 Marlos Coenen

Bantamweight
I don't know what to do with because of how the division is shared with the UFC now.  If we are going to shun the UFC fighters then this would be a chance for some other orgs to rank their women.

Flyweight
#1 Barb Honchak

Strawweight
#1 Carla Esparza

Atomweight
#1 Michelle Waterson

I was going to list the Bellator women as well, but I cannot find a roster of them on their website.
If you want to take this on... we would luv you to Hamilcar. We need top make sure the ranking criteria is consistent with CD's & the rest of our rankings. Hopefully we can add looks and booty size as criteria. Whoops! Did I type that intimate musing. Why am I still typing these thoughts?

Are there currently any major women's rankings Hamilcar. Are you a female yourself Hamilcar?

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by wekka on Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:50 pm

Invicta is pretty much the new Smackgirl/Jewels, so I agree with the majority of their champions being number one.

But Jessica Aguilar has got to be number one in her division.
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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by Aunt Red on Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:10 pm

Wow, Steve Carl wasn't even in the contenders list and he deads the #2 Welterweight (outside UFC).

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by Hamilcar on Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:25 pm

Dagwood wrote:
If you want to take this on... we would luv you to Hamilcar. We need top make sure the ranking criteria is consistent with CD's & the rest of our rankings. Hopefully we can add looks and booty size as criteria. Whoops! Did I type that intimate musing. Why am I still typing these thoughts?

Are there currently any major women's rankings Hamilcar. Are you a female yourself Hamilcar?
Heheh, no, I'm a dude. I just try to catch all the WMMA I can, I'm a fan.

So, yes, I do MMARising has a very good cheat sheet of their own that we can derive inspiration from: http://www.mmarising.com/rankings/unified-womens-mixed-martial-arts-rankings/. Ours would be different because we will be excluding the UFC and hopefully have some women from larger orgs to fill in their 'regional' fighters.

So, as of this moment, we have this:

Featherweight
#1 Cris Cyborg
#2 Marlos Coenen

Bantamweight
#1. Shayna “The Queen of Spades” Baszler
#2. Lauren Taylor
#3. Sarah “The Monster” D’Alelio

Flyweight
#1 Barb Honchak

Strawweight
#1 Jessica Aguliar
#2. Carla Esparza

Atomweight
#1 Michelle Waterson

I will do a little digging around to see what the other orgs got.
Is Shayna signed with the UFC now? I don't know how that Ultimate Fighter thing works. I know she lost her fight in there, so is she booted from the UFC or can I still expect to see her torque Ronda "Pouty" Rowsey's spine? I wonder about the other Invicta bantamweights too, are some of them like Sara Kaufmann exclusive to the UFC now? And if not, does that mean we can still rank them?
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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by CDF47 on Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:25 pm

Uncle Red wrote:Wow, Steve Carl wasn't even in the contenders list and he deads the #2 Welterweight (outside UFC).
He was in the rankings before in the contenders but got passed up by new WWs entering.

I'm thinking between 3 and 5.

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by MR.WILLIE on Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:41 pm

CDF47 wrote:
Uncle Red wrote:Wow, Steve Carl wasn't even in the contenders list and he deads the #2 Welterweight (outside UFC).
He was in the rankings before in the contenders but got passed up by new WWs entering.

I'm thinking between 3 and 5.
3 imo behind askren and lima, he just beat the #2 guy and is on a 7 fight win strek all by submission

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by CDF47 on Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:48 pm

MR.WILLIE wrote:
CDF47 wrote:
Uncle Red wrote:Wow, Steve Carl wasn't even in the contenders list and he deads the #2 Welterweight (outside UFC).
He was in the rankings before in the contenders but got passed up by new WWs entering.

I'm thinking between 3 and 5.
3 imo behind askren and lima, he just beat the #2 guy and is on a 7 fight win strek all by submission
3 makes sense to me. That's where I'll put him.

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by CDF47 on Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:49 pm

Good article on UFC rankings below and what improvements are needed:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/10/29/5042538/ufc-rankings-issues-nelson-machida


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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by Mikal on Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:54 am

input from themmasupreme (very, very knowledgeable guy) from Junkie,

"So we take out Tatsuya Kawajiri now. Can I suggest adding Doo Ho Choi to replace him. IMO, he should have been in the Top 10 to begin with. He's on a 9-fight win streak with 7 of those coming by way of stoppage.

Guan Wang should take Choi's spot. "

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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by wekka on Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:53 am

I agree Choi should be in the rankings. He arguably should've been in since his win over Ishida.
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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by Audax on Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:23 am

Hamilcar wrote:
Dagwood wrote:
If you want to take this on... we would luv you to Hamilcar. We need top make sure the ranking criteria is consistent with CD's & the rest of our rankings. Hopefully we can add looks and booty size as criteria. Whoops! Did I type that intimate musing. Why am I still typing these thoughts?

Are there currently any major women's rankings Hamilcar. Are you a female yourself Hamilcar?
Heheh, no, I'm a dude.  I just try to catch all the WMMA I can, I'm a fan.  

So, yes, I do MMARising has a very good cheat sheet of their own that we can derive inspiration from: http://www.mmarising.com/rankings/unified-womens-mixed-martial-arts-rankings/.  Ours would be different because we will be excluding the UFC and hopefully have some women from larger orgs to fill in their 'regional' fighters.  

So, as of this moment, we have this:

Featherweight
#1 Cris Cyborg
#2 Marlos Coenen

Bantamweight
#1. Shayna “The Queen of Spades” Baszler
#2. Lauren Taylor
#3. Sarah “The Monster” D’Alelio

Flyweight
#1 Barb Honchak

Strawweight
#1 Jessica Aguliar
#2. Carla Esparza

Atomweight
#1 Michelle Waterson

I will do a little digging around to see what the other orgs got.
Is Shayna signed with the UFC now?  I don't know how that Ultimate Fighter thing works.  I know she lost her fight in there, so is she booted from the UFC or can I still expect to see her torque Ronda "Pouty" Rowsey's spine?  I wonder about the other Invicta bantamweights too, are some of them like Sara Kaufmann exclusive to the UFC now?  And if not, does that mean we can still rank them?
Where would you rank Holly Holm?
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Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - October 2013

Post by CDF47 on Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:20 pm

Mikal wrote:input from themmasupreme (very, very knowledgeable guy) from Junkie,

"So we take out Tatsuya Kawajiri now. Can I suggest adding Doo Ho Choi to replace him. IMO, he should have been in the Top 10 to begin with. He's on a 9-fight win streak with 7 of those coming by way of stoppage.

Guan Wang should take Choi's spot. "
I understand but it just doesn't fit our system here. If he would fight more often I would be raising him up 3 spots at a time, instead he just keeps getting passed up by new fighters entering. If he fights a ranked guy I will put him in that spot.

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