KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by God of Thunder on Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:37 am




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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by stu3ufc on Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:23 am



for people saying the cage is better for mma

this can still happen in a cage you know

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by God of Thunder on Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:30 am

Cage is used as a tool since fighters can´t move when they´re pressed against it on the ground and standing. Even if fights in the ring have to be restarted sometimes it´still gives the fights a much more natural flow as strikers and grapplers can always move. Too bad fans can´t see this. Falling out of the ring isn´t a problem but if they want to they can easily put some padding around the fighting area.

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by stu3ufc on Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:33 am

i have no idea why people are so inclined to the cage when you saw the greatest fights of all time happen inside the pride fc ring...check out shooto from 2002-2006 exciting as fuck!

restarts happening were very rare because most of the pride fc fighters werent cowardly decision wrestlers.....

I miss 1x10 and 5 + 5 as well! the fights looks so different.


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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by God of Thunder on Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:34 am

stu3ufc wrote:i have no idea why people are so inclined to the cage when you saw the greatest fights of all time happen inside the pride fc ring

restarts happening were very rare because most of the pride fc fighters werent cowardly decision wrestlers.....

I miss 1x10 and 5 + 5 as well! the fights looks so different

Yeah PRIDE is the perfect argument to why ring is the best. Imagine if all the epic PRIDE fights took place in a cage under unified rules.

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by Rocksoldier84 on Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:37 am

Golden Age wrote:
stu3ufc wrote:i have no idea why people are so inclined to the cage when you saw the greatest fights of all time happen inside the pride fc ring

restarts happening were very rare because most of the pride fc fighters werent cowardly decision wrestlers.....

I miss 1x10 and 5 + 5 as well! the fights looks so different

Yeah PRIDE is the perfect argument to why ring is the best. Imagine if all the epic PRIDE fights took place in a cage under unified rules.

Fights can still be epic in a cage. PRIDE was awesome but it wasn't perfect. I've seen great fights in PRIDE but I've seen great fights in UFC, Bellator, ONE FC, and Strikeforce and they used a cage.

Cages and Rings aren't the problem. The rules are the problem. The reason we see the stuff we see is because the Unified Rules suck and there's no yellow cards or any reason to encourage more action. I guarantee PRIDE would've had the same problem with wrestlers if they didn't have yellow cards and enforced the Unified Rules.

The Unified Rules are the biggest problem because control and takedowns mean more then attempting to finish and inflicting damage.

Speaking of PRIDE, a good example that a ring doesn't make things better is the Dan Severn/Kimo fight. That was in a ring and it is considered one of the most boring fights in MMA history.

I don't care about cages and rings. I care about the rules. I want the Unified Rules gone from MMA. I want fights judged in their entirety. I want yellow cards. I want fights to be judged on who came closer to finishing and who delivered the most damage.

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by fka on Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:00 pm

Amen brother ^^

I've seen plenty of horrible ring fights as well as cage fights.

The unified rules screws up the flow not cage.

Cage is beneficial to both striker and wrestler as far as takedowns and defense go and overall make for a less interference.

Rules screwjob everything

FIX TIMIDITY add YELLOW CARDS or like I've suggested just have a timer of like 10 seconds if guys aren't advancing position or looking to use FIGHT ENDING strikes or subs they are stood up or broken up if in clinch.

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by God of Thunder on Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:09 pm

^^ There are great fights in the cage, Strikeforce for an example was awesome and so is Bellator and ONE FC. Still I´m a PRIDE fanboy and I hope the ring stays strong. Hopefully this is a one time thing for KSW and they continue with the ring. If they´re keeping the cage it should be white like the one DREAM used.

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by stu3ufc on Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:20 pm

Golden Age wrote:
stu3ufc wrote:i have no idea why people are so inclined to the cage when you saw the greatest fights of all time happen inside the pride fc ring

restarts happening were very rare because most of the pride fc fighters werent cowardly decision wrestlers.....

I miss 1x10 and 5 + 5 as well! the fights looks so different

Yeah PRIDE is the perfect argument to why ring is the best. Imagine if all the epic PRIDE fights took place in a cage under unified rules.

LMAO!  Rolling LMAO 

The cage wouldnt be so bad if there was a rule that stopped fighters from using it to take guys down off it!

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by stu3ufc on Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:23 pm

even Pride FC when it hit the U.S and Afflicition MMA....both in the U.S and using a ring had fucking amazing events!

yet every org is changing themselves because of the UFC and the gimmick that the cage brings!

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by adam on Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:01 pm

People over exaggerate the falling out of the ring problem.

The ring is best and the most neutral imo. Cage favors grapplers too much.

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by backdoor to zuffa on Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:06 pm

Falling out of the ring doesn't happen often enough to be a problem. Ring is, was, and will always be the best for fighting.

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KSW 27: Cage Time 05.17.2014 (Official Discussion)

Post by nathanli on Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:13 pm



Mamed Khalidov vs. TBA
Mariusz Pudzianowski vs. Oli Thompson
Aslambek Saidov vs. Borys Mankowski
Karolina Kowalkiewicz vs. Jasminka Cive
Piotr Strus vs. Abu Azaitar

I know most of you show a love affair for rings and are disappointed that MMA is losing its classic look. But that doesn't mean that KSW can't put on one of the better shows in Europe and in the western world.

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by God of Thunder on Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:50 pm

I really hope Mamed gets the winner between Materla and Silva. It makes most sense.

A white cage a la DREAM would be nice.

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by MR.WILLIE on Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:30 pm

No opponent for mamed as of now!

How about falcao?

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by CDF47 on Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:56 am

^Falcao would be a great opponent for Khalidov. Should be an easy pickup for them too.

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by CDF47 on Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:58 am

^No, dump the cage after this event or maybe use it once every 4 to 5 years or so.

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by Deadanimal on Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:13 am

I think they are using the cage becuse guys like Okami and daley dident want to fight in ksw becuse of the ring, so maybe in the future well see Khalidov-Okami Daley-Saidov/Mankowski

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by MR.WILLIE on Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:57 am

Deadanimal wrote:I think they are using the cage becuse guys like Okami and daley dident want to fight in ksw becuse of the ring, so maybe in the future well see Khalidov-Okami  Daley-Saidov/Mankowski

We're do you heard that? I've never seen it, if true is stupid on daleys part heis a striker! Okami signed with wsof almost immediately after getting released by zuffa, so I don't know about that one

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by Deadanimal on Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:29 am

MR.WILLIE wrote:
Deadanimal wrote:I think they are using the cage becuse guys like Okami and daley dident want to fight in ksw becuse of the ring, so maybe in the future well see Khalidov-Okami  Daley-Saidov/Mankowski

We're do you heard that? I've never seen it, if true is stupid on daleys part heis a striker! Okami signed with wsof almost immediately after getting released by zuffa, so I don't know about that one

Daley said in a interview i think it was with ariel that he was thinking of fighting with Saidov becuse hes one of the top welterweights in europe http://www.mmarocks.pl/ksw/paul-daley-chcialbym-sie-zmierzyc-z-aslambekiem-saidovem/

I cant find the article about okami fighting with khalidov but it was something that okami was offered a fight with mamed but he signed with WSOF becuse he prefered the cage

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by God of Thunder on Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:29 am

Deadanimal wrote:I think they are using the cage becuse guys like Okami and daley dident want to fight in ksw becuse of the ring, so maybe in the future well see Khalidov-Okami  Daley-Saidov/Mankowski
Yeah Daley didn´t like how Yakovlev manhandled him in the ring and said he wants to fight in the cage where he can use the cage to get up.

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by stu3ufc on Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:47 pm

Golden Age wrote:
Deadanimal wrote:I think they are using the cage becuse guys like Okami and daley dident want to fight in ksw becuse of the ring, so maybe in the future well see Khalidov-Okami  Daley-Saidov/Mankowski
Yeah Daley didn´t like how Yakovlev manhandled him in the ring and said he wants to fight in the cage where he can use the cage to get up.

Paul daley fucking sucks! yAKOVLEV completly beasted him with well timed takedowns in the center of the ring!

then as usual paul daley is worse than eric prindle off his back then bitches and complains about the ring!

this is why the cage is a tool and it's unfair.

the ring is the supreme fighting surface. no bullshit using the cage to grab.

paul daley will never beat anyone again thats top 15

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by MR.WILLIE on Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:31 pm

Khalidov vs falcao!

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Re: KSW 27: Cage Time Results & Discussion

Post by God of Thunder on Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:09 pm

MR.WILLIE wrote:Khalidov vs falcao!
Good matchup

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